Re: In an RDBMS, what does "Data" mean?

From: Dawn M. Wolthuis <dwolt_at_tincat-group.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2004 10:11:00 -0500
Message-ID: <c9snq9$j1v$1_at_news.netins.net>


"Mikito Harakiri" <mikharakiri_at_iahu.com> wrote in message news:a73wc.31$924.207_at_news.oracle.com...
> "Paul" <paul_at_test.com> wrote in message
> news:7E1wc.11238$NK4.1467178_at_stones.force9.net...
> > Anthony W. Youngman wrote:
> > > The whole point of axioms is that YOU DON'T WANT THEM! The aim of
> > > logicians, mathematicians, and scientists is always to simplify
things.
> > > If you can derive an axiom from other axioms, it ceases to be an axiom
> > > and becomes a theorem, and makes your fundamental theory simpler.
> >
> > OK, I agree with all of that, I don't see how it contradicts what I said
> > though.
>
> Logic perspective is not the only interpretation. Propositions like
>
> <name='Hrundi V. Bakshi', age = 35>
>
> are too miniscule to be elevated to the status of axioms.
>
> As people generously spiced this thread with analogies, I'll invoke one
too.
> The set of tuples is the state in some space. The operations transform one
> state into another one. The theory doesn't really care about details of
the
> particular state, but tells us some general properties of state
> transformations.
>
> In Newton Mechanics the state of the system is the set of coordinates and
> impulses of the system particles. Hamiltonian operator is applied to
initial
> state transforms it into another state. The initial or intermedite state
of
> the system is rarely the focus of the theory. It is the proiperties of
> Hamiltonian operator that are of interest.
>
> P.S. Anthony, admittedly your reasoning is not without intelligence. What
> are you doing in the Pick camp?

Seek the answer to this question. smiles. --dawn Received on Sat Jun 05 2004 - 17:11:00 CEST

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