Re: Testing Various Data Models?

From: Bob Badour <bbadour_at_golden.net>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 15:31:50 -0500
Message-ID: <zdmdnTE0V9nqXMndRVn-jA_at_golden.net>


"Mike Nicewarner" <psyclo_at_nospam_datamodel.org> wrote in message news:c31t8d$d7n$1_at_news.netins.net...
> Well, I don't know Dawn yet, so I'll make up my own mind as time goes by.

You can get all you need to confirm the facts from google groups right now.

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> "Bob Badour" <bbadour_at_golden.net> wrote in message
> news:4_-dnSDZ_J0rXc7dRVn-vA_at_golden.net...
> > "Mike Nicewarner" <psyclo_at_nospam_datamodel.org> wrote in message
> > news:c2vh8t$aab$1_at_news.netins.net...
> > > I've participated in data modeling competitions before, both
organizing
> > and
> > > participating.
> > > Realize that data modeling is more of an iterative process than a
> concrete
> > > science. As the Zippy discussion thread pointed out, just because one
> > > modeler would win doesn't necessarily mean that the modeling
tool/style
> > was
> > > inherently better than the others.
> > > I'd be curious to hear more about what you are talking about, and I
> would
> > > love to see your reasoning (not intuition) for stating that the
> relational
> > > model should be retired.
> >
> > If you expect reason from Dawn, you will be disappointed.
> >
> >
> > > --
> > > Mike Nicewarner [TeamSybase]
> > > http://www.datamodel.org
> > > mike_at_nospam!datamodel.org
> > > Sybase product enhancement requests:
> > > http://www.isug.com/cgi-bin/ISUG2/submit_enhancement
> > >
> > > "Dawn M. Wolthuis" <dwolt_at_tincat-group.com> wrote in message
> > > news:c2l1dq$2q3$1_at_news.netins.net...
> > > > If we were to find a sponsor for a competition where the winner
would
> be
> > a
> > > > named data model and the primary criteria would be related to the
cost
> > tor
> > > > an institution choosing to use that data model (including costs if
> there
> > > is
> > > > a lack of quality or breach of security or difficulty in maintinaing
> it,
> > > > ...), what should that competition include?
> > > >
> > > > I would very much like to see such a competition because my
intuition,
> > > > without sufficient scientifically gathered emperical data, is that
the
> > > > relational model ought to be retired. I realize there are logical
> > > arguments
> > > > for doing so, but even my own logical arguments don't prove to me
that
> > any
> > > > other model (particularly those modeled on mathematical graphs or
> > > di-graphs)
> > > > is any better, only that each has merits and demerits. I would like
> > some
> > > > real data - how could we collect such?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks. --dawn
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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