Re: dbms/rdbms software & its environment

Hi there,

mountain man wrote:
>
> There have been a few astute posts here and there
> to the effect that notwithstanding the benefit of the
> development of "the relational model" for databases,
> for the last 20 years database theory (a la Date for
> example) has remained database centric in its thinking.
>

You 're doing the same trick again: need to get the computer environment into database theory, 'cause it 's incomplete without it.

Gosh: need to get the organizational environment into computing theory, 'cause it 's no use without organization (wasn't it you writing about organizational intellegence).

Yeah: we 'll have to get the society as a whole into the organizational theory, 'cause the organization does not function in a vacuum.

Your approach will lead you to a theory of everything. There are, at least to my knowledge, no good examples of theories of everything. That is simply to complicated.

One of the first steps in theory-building is choosing a limited field of which you can build a good (simplified) model. Try and make that step.

Regards,

Ruud.

> Is this a fair summarisation?
>
> Finally three questions:
>
> 1) To what extent is "an environment external to the
> database" referenced within database theory?
>
> 2) What extent of the user interface in any general database
> application software system and supporting dbms/rdbms
> (or depending on how your view it ... in any general
> dbms/rdbms software and supporting application software
> system) is external to the dbms/rdbms, and what is internal?
>
> 3) In the above, "internal" means literally defined with the
> dbms/rdbms software as sql or contraints or triggers or
> indexation management etc. Considering this definition
>
> are there any examples of solutions in today's world
> whereby database application software systems are
> functioning close to 100% within the dbms/rdbms environment
> rather than distributed on the clients, or application servers?
> (ie: they are defined close to totally within the dbms/rdbms env)
>
> Thanks for your consideration of the above three questions
> and any comments on the fairness of the opening comment.
>
> Farmer Brown
> Falls Creek
> OZ
> www.mountainman.com.au/music
> Q: What is a djembe?
> A: An African drum.

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