Re: Object support in the relational model??

From: Bob Badour <bbadour_at_golden.net>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 02:00:14 -0400
Message-ID: <qzWN8.186$AO7.32876656_at_radon.golden.net>


> > Yes, it does seem like a serious contender aginst ObjectOutputStream.
> > Not against Oracle though. You fail to see the difference.
>
> Oracle will not run on a handheld and it is not a good idea
> to download an Oracle database engine with a Java Webstart
> application. The JDBC driver on it's own has a size of 1.5 MB.
> I do see the difference.

Oracle is not the only SQL dbms. Small-footprint SQL dbms products exist, and your product is not a serious contender against them either. You fail to see that difference as well.

> This was one of the "real" discussions without a commercial
> background, that Leandro was asking for, but all I received here was
> flames.

Carl, you were misrepresenting a crappy product to sell it then just as you are now. A year ago, I gave you the benefit of the doubt and assumed you were simply ignorant. Now, if you remain ignorant, it is willful ignorance to justify the unjustifiable. Your approach lacks both integrity and honesty.

> > Last time I read your postings some time ago, you referred to a db4o
> > VS SQL bechmark that was so badly written (the Java/Jdbc part), that I
> > could hardly have presumed you as knowledgeable about databases.
>
> I agree that the code is very ugly, since it was not written with
> love for SQL, but it tests, what it is supposed to.

No, it misleads. You presented it as a benchmark, and you wrote it with the clear intention of making any competitor appear slower than it is. As I recall, someone here did some nominal optimization and exposed your product as extremely slow for some operations. (Weren't they string operations?)

> > Your
> > public attitude of misrepresenting your product and the ignorance
> > exposed in your early postings were enough for me to form a judgement
> > (and for some others apparently).
>
> I can see that and since there has not been a single friendly response
> in this thread, I guess there may be more people annoyed. Should there
> be further questions concerning db4o, please ask by private mail.

Why? So you can misrepresent your product to innocent marks with nobody around to notice? Received on Thu Jun 13 2002 - 08:00:14 CEST

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