Re: Linux betas NT in TPC testing, running Oracle8

From: <linux_whacko_at_my-dejanews.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:07:19 GMT
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YES, the guy at the bottom is WRONG. MQSeries runs on Linux. Well, ok, maybe not yet. IBM is porting the e-commerce pack to Linux, which include MQSeries.... I KNOW LINUX WILL BE RUNNING MQSERIES SOON.

In article <TOYV2.17252$95.541737_at_news2.giganews.com>,   cbbrowne_at_hex.net wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:11:44 -0500, Nik Simpson <ndsimpso_at_ingr.com> wrote:
> >r.e.ballard_at_usa.net wrote:
> >> : http://rpmfind.net/veillard/oracle/
> >>
> >> : This now points to a legal notice pointing out that they can no
> >> : longer publish the results. Too bad nobody glammed on to the bottom
> >> : line numbers. One of the reasons that there is such strict control
> >> : of TPC numbers is that vendors don't want $/TPC benchmarks done on
> >> : system like FreeBSD or Linux.
> >
> >You clearly have no idea about TPC benchmarks. In order to meet the
> >requirements of TPC/C on say a QUAD XEON you would need something around 4GB
> >of memory, 120-130 high performance SCSI disks, a large scale network to do
> >the testing, 20-30 client machines etc, etc. TPC/D is even worse in terms of
> >resource requirements. Basically, the only people with the money to run
> >these benchmarks are the large vendors, that said, there is aboslutely
> >nothing to prevent Redhat or VA Research from running validated TPC
> >benchmarks and I wouldn't be surprised if they did. But fundamentally the
> >TPC suite is aimed high-end OLTP environments were money is no object, and
> >incidentally, the price of the OS is a tiny tiny part of the cost of the
> >benchmarked configuration, so don't expect using LINUX to make a big
> >difference to the $/transaction (number of transactions for that matter.)
>
> Add to that "lack of clue" the ridiculous implication that MTS/MSMQ
> were somehow cloned from Linux-based software.
>
> MSMQ bears a "more than marked resemblance" to IBM's MQSeries message
> queueing system, which, as far as I can tell, does not run on Linux.
> (FalconMQ *does* have a version of their MQSeries "clone" that runs on
> Linux, but that is quite recent, postdates their port to SCO, and note
> that it is designed to "talk" to an MSMQ server. You can't run an MQ
> clone on Linux at present without having an NT box around as the
> "controller.")
>
> As far as I am aware, the only TP "middleware" available for Linux is:
> - Tecco
> - Tibco
> - Tengah (maybe)
> - OM3
> - Cloverleaf
> - Orbix
> - Falcon MQ
>
> *NONE* of which were available for Linux at the time MSMQ/MTS was
> released.
>
> [Note that Tuxedo, continuing in the tradition of TP products starting
> with "T," is rumored to be available for Linux, and I hear rumor of
> formal announcements next month...]
> --
> "Microsoft: The People who Brought the Y2K Bug into Software Titling"
> -- cbbrowne_at_hex.net
> cbbrowne_at_ntlug.org- <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/tpmonitor.html>
>

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