Re: Oracle and Non-Green Card Indians

Disclaimer: Yes, I work for you know who. If I were their spokesman, I'd probably make it through this post without using the word "pinhead". I'm not.

smith_at_netcom.com ( David Smith at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo) writes:

>Oracle Corporation, currently hires enourmous amounts of Indians
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some racist ranting deleted
[Btw, why do none of the ranters have spelling checkers?]

>You will find them, not
>only programming or what have you, but also manning the technical support
>lines in large numbers. Seems odd to put recent immigrants
>on a phone support
>line, but Oracle knows that a desperate immigrant fleeing his
>impoverished country, will work for less, and they will save a few pennies.

Um, that's "recent immigrants from an English speaking former British colony, who've spent at least four years in an english-speaking university". I don't see what's wrong with that.

>Sadly, there is such a surplus of Americans looking for Computer Science type
>jobs, that a 2 or 3 line classified ad looking for a programmer or
>network person etc., will draw 200 resumes in a week,

Yes, you're right. A classified ad would draw 200 resumes from incompetant chuckleheads that aren't worth my time to read. That is why most managers at Oracle that I know don't advertise open positions that way.

>and a large amount of
>those being from Computer Science graduates who have been unable to land
>their first job.

Oracle does not owe you a job because you cannot find one. Oracle does recruit at Cal Poly, so if you hurry on down to the career center you might catch the recruiter. They hire very large amounts of just-out-of school folks - the average age here was 24 last I checked.

BTW, those of us who are qualified have job offers up the wazoo, unsolicited, so I know there's jobs out there. There's tons of positions (inappropriately) posted here in this newsgroup, as well.

>Is is morally right to allow Oracle to save a few bucks
>while Americans with Computer Science degrees are unemployed.

I'd be interested in seeing the data that Oracle's entry-level salaries are below the industry average. My sources are highly biased, but they seem to indicate that the opposite is true and personal experience backs that up.

>Would the
>average American Computer Science graduate really be unable to man Oracle's
>tech support phones?

I'd rather hire an above average Computer Science graduate than an average one. If you're average, you don't stand a snowball's chance in hell here. If you're _way_ above average, you can make the team and who gives a toss what color your skin is.

Point is, if I'm hiring someone I'm counting on them to snatch my butt out of the fire now and then. I expect to do the same. I want someone I can count on, not some pinhead who mewls plaintively about white males being an oppressed class.

>Would they be worse at it? Are the Indians racially
>superior?

Don't know, but the ones I've worked with have been pretty damned impressive, and I'm _not_ an easy judge.

>I ask you Oracle advocates of the world.

David Duke is looking for a speechwriter - that's more your speed. Here, you have demonstrated an inability to work with some of my team.

Dave Criswell

P.S. You've also offended many of the Senior VP's and managers who might hire you.

P.P.S. Don't even think of applying at Gupta. Received on Sat Nov 12 1994 - 02:04:13 CET