Oracle FAQ Your Portal to the Oracle Knowledge Grid
HOME | ASK QUESTION | ADD INFO | SEARCH | E-MAIL US
 

Home -> Community -> Usenet -> c.d.o.tools -> Re: Data base diagram , help pls

Re: Data base diagram , help pls

From: Joel Garry <joel-garry_at_home.com>
Date: 23 Sep 2004 14:29:03 -0700
Message-ID: <91884734.0409231329.18dc1bde@posting.google.com>


"Mark C. Stock" <mcstockX_at_Xenquery .com> wrote in message news:<Op6dncXEVazve8zcRVn-og_at_comcast.com>...
> "Hans Forbrich" <news.hans_at_telus.net> wrote in message
> news:uql4d.125417$XP3.77689_at_edtnps84...
> | Sybrand Bakker wrote:
> |
> | > On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 17:20:16 +0200, "Rick van Dijk"
> | > <rick_at_datanamic.com> wrote:
> | >
> | >>
> | >>Maybe our tool, DeZign for Databases is something for you. It is a data
> | >>modeling tool. You can find more info at
> | >>http://www.datanamic.com/dezign/index.html. A 30 day evaluation version
> is
> | >>available at http://www.datanamic.com/download/index.html.
> | >>
> | >>Regards,
> | >>
> | >>Rick van Dijk
> | >>
> | >>** Datanamic **
> | >>Tools for Database Developers
> | >>http://www.datanamic.com
> | >
> | > Please be informed your post is spam, and to promote your own product
> | > in replying is considered unethical.
> | >
> |
> | This one is somewhat tricky. It is a legitimate response to the OP's
> | question. However, we've seen a number of cases where the original
> | question is really nothing more than a setup to 'legitimize' the spam.
> |
> | The response could have also mentioned one or two alternatives.
> |
> | /Hans
>
> Good balance Hans.
>
> I've tried the product, and actually know through a friend of a friend one
> of the guys marketing it in the states -- only to say that Rick's legit, I
> won't comment on the product here, except to say that my experience was
> positive
>
> I could see posting a cross reference to c.d.o.marketplace (see my response
> in ...) just to keep 'altruistic' responses from any 'tainted' by
> marketing -- sound like a good approach?

Doesn't seem much different than crossposting, sets up loophole like opt-out in email (spammers can comply with can-spam act while putting in nasty code in remove or contact link).

Of course, legitimizing the "multiple alternatives" has it's own risks. The basic problem is that anyone who's job is marketing is going to, at minimum, feel they must try to get any edge possible for their product, and that's if they are ethical, which some obviously aren't.

I still have mixed feelings about all this. I think that allowing a direct response such as Rick's ought to be ok, yet Daniel has convinced me otherwise.

jg

--
@home.com is bogus.
http://www.ent.iastate.edu/misc/insectsasfood.html
Received on Thu Sep 23 2004 - 16:29:03 CDT

Original text of this message

HOME | ASK QUESTION | ADD INFO | SEARCH | E-MAIL US