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Re: choices regarding where to place code - in the database or middletier

From: Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu>
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 01:30:46 -0800
Message-ID: <1075109383.391383@yasure>


Andrey wrote:

> "Daniel Morgan" <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message
> news:1075098515.457142_at_yasure...
> 

>>Joe Weinstein wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Sure! *I* tend to council against complete DBMS independence. This is
> 
> not
> 

>>>for love or preference for a given DBMS product, but in acknowledgement
>>>that a significant portion of the DBMSes capabilities are presented in a
>>>proprietary way.
>>
>>What you are counselling is that people write some of the worst possible
>>code and NOT take advantage of those features and capabilities that make
>>a product worth the money.
>>
>>And just because at some point years later they MIGHT decide to change
>>to another product where they can once again write mediocre code with
>>minimal performance and scalability.
>>
>>On one hand you toot BEA's horn by saying the Oracle gets its best
>>performance with BEA. Then you advise removing the beast's teeth and
> 
> claws.
> 

>>Sounds a bit schizophrenic to me. Buy my product because it makes Oracle
>>blazingly fast ... but when you implement it ... don't take advantage of
>>any of those features that make it blazingly fast.
> 
> 
> Dear Daniel! Please, provide examples of what you name "blazinly fast"
> middleware products, made by Oracle.
> Is it OAS ? Surely not.
> So, even I DO NOT use BEA, I must admitt that you denying criticism is
> groundless.

Try not to jump into the middle of a conversation without reviewing it from the beginning. Not one of my sentences has referred to Oracle's middle ware. We have been discussing BEA's and its use in Oracle's TPC benchmarks.

-- 
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Received on Mon Jan 26 2004 - 03:30:46 CST

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