Re: choices regarding where to place code - in the database or middletier
From: Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu>
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 01:30:46 -0800
Message-ID: <1075109383.391383_at_yasure>
>>Joe Weinstein wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Sure! *I* tend to council against complete DBMS independence. This is
>>>proprietary way.
>>
>>What you are counselling is that people write some of the worst possible
>>code and NOT take advantage of those features and capabilities that make
>>a product worth the money.
>>
>>And just because at some point years later they MIGHT decide to change
>>to another product where they can once again write mediocre code with
>>minimal performance and scalability.
>>
>>On one hand you toot BEA's horn by saying the Oracle gets its best
>>performance with BEA. Then you advise removing the beast's teeth and
>>Sounds a bit schizophrenic to me. Buy my product because it makes Oracle
>>blazingly fast ... but when you implement it ... don't take advantage of
>>any of those features that make it blazingly fast.
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 01:30:46 -0800
Message-ID: <1075109383.391383_at_yasure>
[Quoted] Andrey wrote:
> "Daniel Morgan" <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message > news:1075098515.457142_at_yasure... >
>>Joe Weinstein wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Sure! *I* tend to council against complete DBMS independence. This is
> > not >>>>that a significant portion of the DBMSes capabilities are presented in a
>>>for love or preference for a given DBMS product, but in acknowledgement
>>>proprietary way.
>>
>>What you are counselling is that people write some of the worst possible
>>code and NOT take advantage of those features and capabilities that make
>>a product worth the money.
>>
>>And just because at some point years later they MIGHT decide to change
>>to another product where they can once again write mediocre code with
>>minimal performance and scalability.
>>
>>On one hand you toot BEA's horn by saying the Oracle gets its best
>>performance with BEA. Then you advise removing the beast's teeth and
> > claws. >
>>Sounds a bit schizophrenic to me. Buy my product because it makes Oracle
>>blazingly fast ... but when you implement it ... don't take advantage of
>>any of those features that make it blazingly fast.
> > > Dear Daniel! Please, provide examples of what you name "blazinly fast" > middleware products, made by Oracle. > Is it OAS ? Surely not. > So, even I DO NOT use BEA, I must admitt that you denying criticism is > groundless.
Try not to jump into the middle of a conversation without reviewing it from the beginning. Not one of my sentences has referred to Oracle's middle ware. We have been discussing BEA's and its use in Oracle's TPC benchmarks.
-- Daniel Morgan http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/oad/oad_crs.asp http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/aoa/aoa_crs.asp damorgan_at_x.washington.edu (replace 'x' with a 'u' to reply)Received on Mon Jan 26 2004 - 10:30:46 CET