Re: Oracle Forms vs Visual Studio .Net

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Niall Litchfield
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"Daniel Morgan" <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message
news:1074366905.952181_at_yasure...


> Comments in-line.


>

> Niall Litchfield wrote:

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> > "Daniel Morgan" <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message

> > news:1074267648.488805_at_yasure...

> >

> >>I've read Andrew and Jeff's responses and want to give you some

> >>additional arguments in favor of Oracle Forms.

> >

> >

> >>4. Far superior security to .NET

> >

> >

> >>5. Far tighter integration than .NET

> >

> >

> > How well is forms integrated with the application server (IIS/COM+) that

> > will be in use here?

>

> Don't recall anything about IIS/COM+: Perhaps my mistake. My

> recollection was whether iAS is required and it is not.


<quote>
We have Oracle 8 database in a
AIX unix box (plan to upgrade to 9i in future), MS SQL Server and MS IIS. We
do not run any Java web server or have any java programs. Mostly VB and ASP
stuff.
</quote>



>

> >>6. Far more sensible approach if using the database for anything other


> >>than columns and rows.

> >

> >

> > I don't think that I understand?

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> Microsoft often does not support newer abilities in Oracle. So your

> ability to work with some data types (especially UDT), functions, etc.

> may not be supported as completely.


Fair enough, though if the Oracle Data Provider for .Net doesn't support
them I'd be bugging Oracle not MS. I'm not a fan of using ms providers to
access 3rd party db platforms.



> >>7. Platform independence

> >

> >

> > but this already is an MS shop. Isn't this argument a bit of a red


herring?


>

> An MS shop meaning they don't have and wish to limit themselves from


> ever having any other technology? Basically ... if I understand your

> argument, preclude yourself from ever moving to Linux because you will

> have too big an investment in a single vendor's technology.


Choosing heterogeneous operating systems and skillsets is a strategic
decision. It might be a correct decision, but my take on the request was
that we were commenting on which of  Forms or .Net was more appropriate for
this application in this organisation. to be honest given what was said
about where they were coming from I'd be more concerned about wether Oracle
was the right choice than Forms v .Net



> Beats H out of JDeveloper? Can you get anything you build to fail-over


> on RAC? With JDeveloper fail-over is just a Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V away if you

> grab the TAF demo from otn.


I don't know, but I suspect that you can. On the other hand given that the
number of customers Oracle has on RAC is in the 'hundreds' according to
Larry in his 10g presentation, for the most part RAC is just an irrelevance.
I suspect TAF is even more so since there is no requirement to rewrite apps
for TAF so I'd be sceptical if there were more than say 150 TAF enabled
production apps in the world. I'm sure if there are someone from Oracle will
jump in.



> Reasonable people may disagree. It is just my opinion.



Don't know if I'm always reasonable but sure we have different opinions on
this.


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Niall Litchfield
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Audit Commission UK
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