Re: I can attach in SQL Server, but can I in Oracle?

I've got you beat. I've been doing engineering applications since 1970 ... you do the math.

My apps are running at nuclear power plants, for nuclear fuel/material management, calculating the hydraulic forces from piping breaks, power plant controls, etc. so I ain't no slouch. You obviously have no experience with things like the MS .NET languages C#, VB and C++ or you wouldn't make the types of statements you did regarding scalability.

While I may be older than you are, my apps are written in all three of those so I do stay "current" on software development (for the app in question, the datalayer is in C#, the business layer in VB.NET, and UIs are written in ASP.NET and VB.NET -- I wrote them all) ... BTW, I also speak FORTRAN, COBOL, C and PASCAL.

You can do or say whatever you want. It doesn't matter ... the first principal of large application software design is to solve the problem with the best methods and tools available. My design principal for the application being addressed, at the request of my clients, was to have the application cross as many data sources as possible. As in all cases of design there is no "perfect" design -- it is intended to be the best "compromise" the developer can achieve.

"You" must have a lot of experience with "Hello World" apps to make the statements you did ... have you built anything else?

While I would like to be more expert at Oracle products, it will too take some time to gain the expertise of real Oracle DBAs ... but since I don't plan to apply for an Oracle DBA position, it makes no sense to gain the same level as expertise as is needed to run an Oracle installation day-to-day ... that's what my clients' DBAs do.

I do appreciate the level of expertise that is required to be an Oracle DBA and I have absolutely no intention of trying to achieve the level of understanding required to do that. Why would I do that? I make my money doing applications; not being a DBA. And based on my sales revenues, I'm obviously good at what I do.

But, obviously too, your stupidity is only exceeded by your arrogance ... if this thread bothers you that much, use Message | Block Sender...

I'm going to continue to read and respond to those DBAs and others who wish to provide help and assistance to those of us with less expertise and experience in Oracle.

For those who wish to provide help and assistance to a "novice", your help and assistance is greatly appreciated.

Ron

"Sybrand Bakker" <gooiditweg_at_nospam.demon.nl> wrote in message news:8h28jvk2udtdpcda00ujgtsbi3i7iufkei_at_4ax.com...
> On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 18:50:02 GMT, "Ron Fluegge" <rmflugge_at_swbell.net>
> wrote:
>
> >However, if you were a "developer" you would know that it is also absurd
to
> >create two different versions of an application to support two or more
data
> >sources. That's the whole purpose behind a "data layer" in a
multi-tiered
> >application ... my datalayer IS WORKING with all of the 5 data sources
> >listed below. So I do apparently know more than you do about application
> >development. (now stepping off of soap box).
>
> I admit most developers are usually damn arrogant, especially when
> their expertise is with sql-server. They always know better, and
> consequently they deliver applications that always conform to the
> first principle of building a non-scalable Oracle application: they
> don't use bind variables. Obviously your application is no exception.
> To state you know more about application development must be
> considered as what you intend it is: a blatant insult. I have been in
> this field for 17 years, and I *know* what I am talking about, and you
> obviously *don't*
>
>
> If you really were a developer you would know it is absurd to develop
> for a platform you have zero knowledge off.
> But then you are just 'smart', which comes down to stubborn and
> stupid.
>
> You know better, so you will soon find yourself in hell, like all the
> other arrogant sql-server 'developers'
>
> And now please get lost
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sybrand Bakker, Senior Oracle DBA
>
> To reply remove -verwijderdit from my e-mail address
Received on Sat Aug 09 2003 - 00:13:17 CEST