Re: The black box approach

On Sunday, December 25, 2016 at 11:39:30 PM UTC-8, Noons wrote:
> On 26/12/2016 12:59 _at_wiz, Mladen Gogala wrote:
> >
> > Hi Noons,
> > I am mostly having fun. Here is my post from today:
> >
> > On 12/25/2016 12:43 AM, Tim Gorman wrote:
>
> Oh boy, talk about Oakies"... :)
> Never seen that one write anything technical that didn't involve calling
> anyone non-Oakie as a "bad dba". Apparently the only "good dbas" are
> the Oakies, even though the vast majority of them never had to be
> responsible and run a production site day after day for years and live
> with the consequences of their decisions. It's always hit-and-run
> con-sultancy with those...
>
>
> >>>> Explaining those features is the least I could do for an Oracle ACE.
> >>
> >> Actually, the least you could do is explain them correctly.
> >>
> >> You started off OK in describing the Oracle in-memory implementation as
> > a column store, which is easy enough since it is. And you should have
> > stopped there.
> >>
> >> Instead, you veered into the weeds with an odd analogy to bitmap
> >> indexes, which indicates either unfamiliarity with in-memory column
> >> stores, or with bitmap indexes, or both. There is nothing to suggest
> >> the method, the manner, the usage, or the impact of bitmap indexes in
> >> any in-memory column store implementation.
> >>
> > Actually, I didn't come up with that analogy. The credit goes to another
> > Oracle ACE, soon to be retired:
> >
> > https://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2013/11/06/12c-in-memory/
>
> Oooops....
> you "bad dba", you...
> :)))
>
>
> >
> > With the in-memory columnar copy you should be able to drop many “DSS
> > indexes”, thus improving OLTP response times – in effect the in-memory
> > stuff behaves a bit like non-persistent bitmap indexing.
> >
> > I can see that you disagree with such a description, but I cannot claim
> > the authorship. I am glad you recognized that as a falsehood from a mile
> > away and I am sure you will be able to correct the author.
>
> or send them a kevlar flame suit!
> (I better not go there given I've been accused of "physically
> threatening" his lady even though I haven't been in the US since the
> mid-80s and never met her or him.
> Ah well, the mind boggles at so much technical "knowledge" and "ability".
>
>
> > Last but certainly not least, I wish you a merry Christmas.
>
> ;)

[Quoted] Dang, didn't even realize how long since I've been here. Yeah, the kevlar poison has dissoluted about, I don't even know why I'm considered such anathema. Even hjr eventually came around.

jg

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