Re: Heavy Duty schema manager tool? (was Re: DBA Jobs)

Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message news:<1092446858.41971_at_yasure>...
> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>
> > On 2004-08-08, Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote:
> >
> >>Thought everyone would like to read this email I received from someone
> >>that sells hardware for IBM (not DB2). So ends up in a lot of Oracle
> >>shops.
> >>
> >>=====================================================================
> >>As to the tuning question, well, I've heard several IT directors say
> >>something to the effect of "We could invest in people, or tools. We
> >>chose tools". The new automation features in 10G seem to reinforce those
> >>opinions. It's getting disturbing out there.
> >>=====================================================================
> >
> >
> > That only works if the tools aren't crap. Oracle isn't exactly well known
> > for making the best tools. Oracle 10g is no different in this regard.
>
> Quite frankly I don't believe you have any experience with the 10g
> tools. But I would enjoy being proven wrong.
>
> Please tell me specifically what is wrong with each of the following 10g
> tools:

     Given what most DBA's are entrusted with, you've got the burden of proof backwards. Past performance does not guarantee future results. However,
they do tend to be a good predictor.

>
> 1. ASM
Poor performance in the previous version.

> 2. AWR
> 3. ADDM
A version 1.0 product from a vendor that is entirely new to the area.

> 4. Grid Control

A version 1.0 product for insufficiently tested technology.

> 5. RDA
Poor performance in the previous version.

     Now, I do have some experience with Oracle 10G OEM. That is why I am asking about alternatives to change manager. It seems unchanged from 9i and thus unsuitable for heavy use.

     Even a few minor UI tweaks could have been very handy. Received on Thu Aug 19 2004 - 11:53:50 CDT