Re: Heavy Duty schema manager tool? (was Re: DBA Jobs)

From: Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu>
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 19:51:05 -0700
Message-ID: <1092970313.555756@yasure>

JEDIDIAH wrote:

> Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message news:<1092446858.41971_at_yasure>...
>

>>JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On 2004-08-08, Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thought everyone would like to read this email I received from someone
>>>>that sells hardware for IBM (not DB2). So ends up in a lot of Oracle
>>>>shops.
>>>>
>>>>=====================================================================
>>>>As to the tuning question, well, I've heard several IT directors say
>>>>something to the effect of "We could invest in people, or tools. We 
>>>>chose tools". The new automation features in 10G seem to reinforce those
>>>>opinions. It's getting disturbing out there.
>>>>=====================================================================
>>>
>>>
>>>That only works if the tools aren't crap. Oracle isn't exactly well known
>>>for making the best tools. Oracle 10g is no different in this regard.
>>
>>Quite frankly I don't believe you have any experience with the 10g
>>tools. But I would enjoy being proven wrong.
>>
>>Please tell me specifically what is wrong with each of the following 10g
>>tools:

>
>
> Given what most DBA's are entrusted with, you've got the burden
> of proof backwards. Past performance does not guarantee future
> results. However,
> they do tend to be a good predictor.
>
>

>>1. ASM

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> Poor performance in the previous version.
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>

>>2. AWR
>>3. ADDM

>
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> A version 1.0 product from a vendor that is entirely new to the area.
>
>

>>4. Grid Control

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> A version 1.0 product for insufficiently tested technology.
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>>5. RDA

>
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> Poor performance in the previous version.
>
> Now, I do have some experience with Oracle 10G OEM. That is why I
> am asking about alternatives to change manager. It seems unchanged
> from 9i and thus unsuitable for heavy use.
>
> Even a few minor UI tweaks could have been very handy.

The fact that something is, to you, version 1.0 does not mean it is and does not mean you should stay away from it.

-- 
Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
damorgan_at_x.washington.edu
(replace 'x' with 'u' to respond)

Received on Thu Aug 19 2004 - 21:51:05 CDT