Do me a favour, Ron. Try and get just ONE little thing right. The name is
"Mr Rogers" to you.
HJR
"Ron" <support_at_dbainfopower.com> wrote in message
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>
> As usual - unreasonable personal accusations and facts twisting.
>
> Mr Howard probably hopes that no one would read original post.
>
> Mr Howard. is welcome for continue. For me - enough.
>
> Ron
> DBA Infopower
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>
>
>
> "Howard J. Rogers" <hjr_at_dizwell.com> wrote in message
> news:40341a08$0$19705$afc38c87_at_news.optusnet.com.au...
> >
> > "Ron" <support_at_dbainfopower.com> wrote in message
> > news:Nr2dnVQ0ffhRC6zdRVn-uA_at_comcast.com...
> > >
> > > Hello Bricken,
> > >
> > > Thank you for bringing this in.
> > >
> > > As you may check in previous posts I never ever questioned or
> suggested
> > > Mr. Howard's professional abilities (despite his absolutely
unreasonable
> > > attempts earlier to doubt my profession experience and advice)
> >
> > They weren't, and aren't, unreasonable, actually. You judge a tree by
its
> > fruit.
> >
> > > What I did is merely noted that Mr. Howard omitted very important
> > database
> > > recovery option
> >
> > TSPITR might be "very important" BUT IT WASN'T RELEVANT TO THE QUESTION
> THAT
> > THE ORIGINAL POSTER ASKED!!!!!
> >
> > How did I know it wasn't relevant? Because I can read.
> > How should you now know it wasn't relevant? Because the original poster
> got
> > his database back and working by following my advice, and not by doing a
> > TSPITR.
> >
> > Jeez. This is like trying to teach a puppy to sit.
> >
> > I didn't mention the spfile, or RAC, or advanced replication... because
> THEY
> > WEREN'T RELEVANT, either. In fact, shock horror, what I did was to
answer
> > the question that was asked.
> >
> > Honestly! You just throw bits from the Oracle manual in because it's
"very
> > important", do you, or what?
> >
> > >and pointed user into direction that can be end of DBA
> > > career in production environment.
> >
> > I don't even pretend to know what that particular sub-clause of your
> > sentence means.
> >
> > > With all this said - no one is perfect. Even the best experts can
and
> > do
> > > make mistakes.
> >
> > There was no mistake, Ron. I didn't mention TSPITR, because it wasn't
> > relevant. I can't seem to get that through to you, though, can I?
> >
> > >So, there is no need to be offended. Someone corrects you,
> > > recognize it and that's it.
> >
> > Then that makes you a hypocrite, Ron, because you have never admitted,
> once,
> > that the advice you gave on external tables, archiving, and the
particular
> > recovery scenario under discussion in this thread was wrong, wrong,
wrong.
> >
> > >
> > > Please, look up the thread. Is there was any reason even to attempt
> to
> > > prove that user did not said exactly what he said?
> >
> > Again, not entirely sure what that last sentence means. But I needed
> nothing
> > pointing out about the user's requirements. Read it and weep, Ron: the
guy
> > got his database back by *following my advice*. Not yours.
> >
> > >I think no. I was the one
> > > who all the time was trying to stop this flame .
> >
> > No, you thought you'd be a smartass and point out that I hadn't
mentioned
> > TSPITR, for what reason I can't imagine. That the guy had no use for
> TSPITR
> > didn't stop you at all. That his recovery scenario needed nothing other
> than
> > standard disaster recovery RMAN procedures didn't stop you either.
> >
> > > Mr. Howard is a long time list contributor. Does this gives anyone
> right
> > > to treat new members as a second class citizens?
> >
> > Whether I am a long-time contributor or not, I have the right to call a
> > spade a spade, and an idiot an idiot if the idiot won't take the hint.
> >
> > You come on this newsgroup and take sides in a dispute over a Don
Burleson
> > article, the details of which dispute you know nothing about. You don't
> back
> > off from taking sides when some of the subtleties of it are gently
pointed
> > out to you. You thereby impugn the integrity of another extremely
helpful
> > poster to this group. You don't apologise for it. You proceed to offer
> > appallingly bad advice in a number of threads, and when called on it by
> > various posters simply say "I gave the guy a choice" or "thank you for
> > expanding my answer" when what you *should* have said is, "I was wrong,
> and
> > I apologise".
> >
> > When a new "member" behaves so crassly, with such hubris, and with such
> > disdain for the normal rules of polite society, then you can expect to
be
> > treated as you have been, and not just by me it would appear.
> >
> > You are a complete waste of time, and I pity the poor newbies who end up
> on
> > the receiving end of your "advice".
> >
> > Memo to myself: stop feeding the trolls.
> >
> > HJR
> >
> >
>
>
Received on Wed Feb 18 2004 - 23:06:42 CST
