Re: rman recover/restore from backup

As usual - unreasonable personal accusations and facts twisting.

Mr Howard probably hopes that no one would read original post.

Mr Howard. is welcome for continue. For me - enough.

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"Howard J. Rogers" <hjr_at_dizwell.com> wrote in message news:40341a08$0$19705$afc38c87_at_news.optusnet.com.au...
>
> "Ron" <support_at_dbainfopower.com> wrote in message
> news:Nr2dnVQ0ffhRC6zdRVn-uA_at_comcast.com...
> >
> > Hello Bricken,
> >
> > Thank you for bringing this in.
> >
> > As you may check in previous posts I never ever questioned or
suggested
> > Mr. Howard's professional abilities (despite his absolutely unreasonable
> > attempts earlier to doubt my profession experience and advice)
>
> They weren't, and aren't, unreasonable, actually. You judge a tree by its
> fruit.
>
> > What I did is merely noted that Mr. Howard omitted very important
> database
> > recovery option
>
> TSPITR might be "very important" BUT IT WASN'T RELEVANT TO THE QUESTION
THAT
> THE ORIGINAL POSTER ASKED!!!!!
>
> How did I know it wasn't relevant? Because I can read.
> How should you now know it wasn't relevant? Because the original poster
got
> his database back and working by following my advice, and not by doing a
> TSPITR.
>
> Jeez. This is like trying to teach a puppy to sit.
>
> I didn't mention the spfile, or RAC, or advanced replication... because
THEY
> WEREN'T RELEVANT, either. In fact, shock horror, what I did was to answer
> the question that was asked.
>
> Honestly! You just throw bits from the Oracle manual in because it's "very
> important", do you, or what?
>
> >and pointed user into direction that can be end of DBA
> > career in production environment.
>
> I don't even pretend to know what that particular sub-clause of your
> sentence means.
>
> > With all this said - no one is perfect. Even the best experts can and
> do
> > make mistakes.
>
> There was no mistake, Ron. I didn't mention TSPITR, because it wasn't
> relevant. I can't seem to get that through to you, though, can I?
>
> >So, there is no need to be offended. Someone corrects you,
> > recognize it and that's it.
>
> Then that makes you a hypocrite, Ron, because you have never admitted,
once,
> that the advice you gave on external tables, archiving, and the particular
> recovery scenario under discussion in this thread was wrong, wrong, wrong.
>
> >
> > Please, look up the thread. Is there was any reason even to attempt
to
> > prove that user did not said exactly what he said?
>
> Again, not entirely sure what that last sentence means. But I needed
nothing
> pointing out about the user's requirements. Read it and weep, Ron: the guy
> got his database back by *following my advice*. Not yours.
>
> >I think no. I was the one
> > who all the time was trying to stop this flame .
>
> No, you thought you'd be a smartass and point out that I hadn't mentioned
> TSPITR, for what reason I can't imagine. That the guy had no use for
TSPITR
> didn't stop you at all. That his recovery scenario needed nothing other
than
> standard disaster recovery RMAN procedures didn't stop you either.
>
> > Mr. Howard is a long time list contributor. Does this gives anyone
right
> > to treat new members as a second class citizens?
>
> Whether I am a long-time contributor or not, I have the right to call a
> spade a spade, and an idiot an idiot if the idiot won't take the hint.
>
> You come on this newsgroup and take sides in a dispute over a Don Burleson
> article, the details of which dispute you know nothing about. You don't
back
> off from taking sides when some of the subtleties of it are gently pointed
> out to you. You thereby impugn the integrity of another extremely helpful
> poster to this group. You don't apologise for it. You proceed to offer
> appallingly bad advice in a number of threads, and when called on it by
> various posters simply say "I gave the guy a choice" or "thank you for
> expanding my answer" when what you *should* have said is, "I was wrong,
and
> I apologise".
>
> When a new "member" behaves so crassly, with such hubris, and with such
> disdain for the normal rules of polite society, then you can expect to be
> treated as you have been, and not just by me it would appear.
>
> You are a complete waste of time, and I pity the poor newbies who end up
on
> the receiving end of your "advice".
>
> Memo to myself: stop feeding the trolls.
>
> HJR
>
>
Received on Wed Feb 18 2004 - 22:52:07 CST