Re: Hmmm, it's starting....

Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message news:<1074651771.391111_at_yasure>...
> Joel Garry wrote:
>
> > I kinda wish they would announce when I can get cd's for things that
> > are already certified. And is there a release date anywhere for 10g
> > database? News and Events on metalink seems to think 9iR2 is hot
> > stuff.
>
> When released it won't be a secret anywhere on this planet where
> electricity exists. But I think very soon ... weeks not months.

Well, I start the project tomorrow, and if it is available tomorrow, I use it, if not, I'm not a big fan of adding a major version upgrade in the middle of a project, even a project that is amenable to the latest and greatest. I expect the W2K version won't be the first out the gate, anyways. Still wish I had some solid evidence Linux is better (although I faithfully believe it is).

>
> >>>To put it through its paces. The last thing they want is people that
> >>>like to live on the bleeding edge implementing solutions with Beta
> >>>software and we both know that would happen.
> >>
> >>That has never happened. If anything, those "people" use OLD versions
> >>of Oracle, not new ones. As complained SO MANY TIMES in public here
> >>and everywhere else. Well known fact and NEVER was it a concern.
> >
> > Some would argue those old versions of Oracle _were_ beta's :-)
>
> You don't mean 8.1.5, 8.1.6, 9.0.1, and 9.0.2 by any chance? ;-)

I was thinking more of 2,3,4,5,6 and some part of 7, but they'll do.

> >
> > jg
> > --
> > @home.com is bogus.
> > http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/mon/business/news_mz1b19phone.html
>
> Well I'm still waiting for more information about the last "stable"
> version ... 7.3.5. ;-)
>
> <rant>
> Come on folks get over the testosterone and hyperbole. No Beta has ever
> been offered to all licensed users by any major software company since
> MS made that mistake: Once.
>
> If you want to be a Beta site for 10.1 or 10.2 or whatever it will be
> what is stopping you from applying right this minute? You don't truly
> believe 10g is the last software release Oracle will ever have. So get
> down off your pedestal and ask to be included if you think you have
> something to offer. If you don't apply please stop crying about the fact
> that others made the effort.
> </rant>
>
> Note: The preceding rant not directed at Joel.

Good rant, but I would think it is silly to ask for a Beta as production is about to be released?

I think Oracle at best blundered in that it gave people the feeling they are outsiders with this whole cloistered beta thing. I'm not sure that it could have been avoided, given the organizational changes they must have made to avoid the Real Soon Now delay like with 8.0. On the other hand, it's been how long for 10?

I'll have FUD, FUD, FUD, FUD, FUD, FUD, FUD and eggs.

jg

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