Re: What is Oracle10G?

Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_exxesolutions.com> wrote in message news:<3F1ACFEA.671DCEF9_at_exxesolutions.com>...
> Noons wrote:
>
> > "Daniel Morgan" <damorgan_at_exxesolutions.com> wrote in message
> > news:3F19B579.BEB45121_at_exxesolutions.com...
> >
> > >
> > > I am working with 10i(G) and liking it. Which is about all the NDA will allow
> > > me to say.
> >
> > Say no more! ;)
> >
> > > It is going to be a fun ride for those who buy a ticket. Townsend and his crew
> > > are likely going to have a lot of fun soon. We will too.
> >
> > Look, I have no doubts that this grid computing thing is the next
> > buzzword. The darn thing is gonna be rammed down our collective
> > throats for the next coupla years. And we'll hear all sorts of
> > theories on how it's gonna take over the world, how everything else
> > is "gone", yadda yadda. Hope so, because the previous "paradigm
> > shifts" were nothing short of disasters.
> >
> > Funny thing is when this was called distributed data processing nobody
> > made a peep... The more this industry re-invents itself, the more
> > I have to yawn, quite frankly. There is not a single IT "concept" in the
> > last 15 years that is not some form of badge engineering or re-hash of
> > older technologies. Nothing really new, apart from the widespread
> > use of the Internet. And that isn't even a technology...
> >
> > Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun. I'm looking forward to the
> > "G" jokes, have already heard a few in other fora. Oh yeah,
> > I forgot all the forthcoming books written by long time grid experts
> > at TUSC and Burleson's. That will happen too very soon, and will
> > be fun to read.
> >
> > I wonder: will Oracle now create a "Grid-Masters" certification?
> > Can't you folks in Academia do something about this? I'm getting
> > fed-up with all these "re-certifications of the certification"
> > going on. About time a proper tertiary syllabus is created so the
> > industry doesn't have to put up with this manufacturer's joke.
> > It's not like there isn't enough theoretical material on data
> > management and database technology!
> >
> > Our DBA is still concerned about getting 8i certification. Told
> > her a number of times no one cares, but what the heck: she's young
> > and well paid, she can afford it! Meanwhile, the heaps out there
> > still in V7 and 8.0 will keep trodding along. Ah well, where was
> > that 9ir2 copy again in my notebook? Gotta take the cobwebs off
> > that one, time to use it. ;)
> >
> > PS: Microsoft out of the picture? Yeah right! Wait until
> > Steve Balmer pops out WinGrid. Or better yet, .GRID!
> >
> > :D
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> > Nuno Souto
> > wizofoz2k_at_yahoo.com.au.nospam
>
> A friend of mine at Oracle tells me that those that can't make the paradigm shift
> from columns and rows to types and objects won't be employable in the future. I
> believe him. I think those that can't make the shift between the current data center
> paradigm and one far more closely resembling the mainframe are also soon to be
> obsolecent.
>

You mean shift to OO DB model? Ain't gonna happen. This model it out there for more than 10 years already and accomplished nothing. Current attempts by Oracle and IBM to have some kind of objects and types in the database are just ridiculous. Those who is talking about it are forgetting the main idea of a database: quick search of information. Relational model allows it. OO model doesn't. Everything else is just management talk, or salesman talk. As for compatibility of OO model with relarional, anybody who read Codd knows that those two models are not compatible. And anybody who knows DB history a little bit knows that OO model is actually painted over network DB model. CODASYL anybody?

> Basically what I see, with RAC, N+1, grid, etc. is a recreation of the mainframe
> from individual components. How else to compete with IBM and Hitachi? How else to
> leverage investments that, for-the-most-part, sit idle.
>
> Does that mean we won't be treated to marketing hyperbole? Oh course not. The
> weasels need to make a living too. So they will rename SQL*Forms to Forms to
> Dev/2000 to Developer Suite to iDS, etc. and use meaningless waffle words because
> ... well it works with management types and helps them make their quota. Don't let
> it get you down. It beats having our taxes raised to cover their unemployment.
Received on Mon Jul 21 2003 - 10:15:49 CDT