Re: Comparison of Java, C# for development on Windows and future for them

Chad Myers <cmyers_at_n0.sp.4m.austin.rr.com> wrote:

> "kim bruning" <kim_at_NObruning.SPAMdemon.HEREnl.invalid> wrote in message
> news:98tmva.m3u.ln_at_bruning.demon.nl...

>>
>> .Net is covered by Ximian. SQL is not an MS invention, and SQL
>> support on unix platforms is pervasive.

> Actually, SQL 7 and SQL 2000 are MS inventions.

And here I was thinking we were talking about the Structured Query Language.

>> Office compatibility is
>> offered by multiple unix and linux vendors and project groups.

Word documents can be read with strings. :-P If it turns out the formatting wasn't totally spurious and useless you can always use staroffice and use the "print to file" option to make some nice postscript.

>> Visual Studio is "Not The Unix Way", though there are several >> other ides available.

> But not of the caliber of VS.NET, especially for C++ work.

Let's not start another IDE war. Let's just say I'm a vi addict and leave it at that, ok?

>> Finally Exchange is the only thing that
>> isn't pervasive on unix. Unix people like to feel they have
>> superior tools to that. ;-)

> Oh yeah, POP3/SMTP is far superior to Exchange. Where's that
> all-inclusive collaboration package for *nix?

I think it's called finger. ;-)

> Why do the Linux folk try to duplicate Outlook (see Evolution)?

Why, to allow linux machines to displace windows machines entirely of course. World domination!

> Twice, as a matter of fact. They never completed the submission process.

>> There's nothing stopping MS from trying the same.

> Actually, it's already done. The CIL and C# are standards and cannot
> be "pulled" anymore.

As soon as I get me a linux version of C#, I'll certainly look into it.

> MS has also got preliminary approval for ISO standardization process.

If c# passes this, then I will learn c#.

>> > the best part of C# I like is it does not have performance issues of
>> > Java.
>>
>> If you say so. Isn't C# supposed to be a VM based langauge too?

> Kind of. The CLR is "like" a VM, but not true in the Java sense.
> For all intents and purposes, I guess it is.

I'd love to look at a white paper on this!

>> In that case implementations of Java and C# ought to roughly be >> equally fast in the long run.

> In theory, but apparently not in practice.

Long run. I was covering my rear there. :-)

read you soon,

        Kim Bruning Received on Fri Jan 10 2003 - 17:16:54 CST