Re: Oracle 11i on HP or SUN? (not trying to starting a war)

I agree with the points on hidden costs. I'm actually considering SUN because of the level of expertise they directly bring to the table on Oracle verse HP's offering (not to replace but complement). This I feel, helps me reduce the number of throats-to-chock issues that could otherwise arise if there are problems. SUN has a large mountain to climb in trying to have us switch 'camps' and unless they can prove/provide a "safety-net" for post go-live that's cost effective, I will probably stay with how I know.

Thanks again.

On 26 Mar 2002 11:04:07 -0800, lizr_at_geologist.com (Liz) wrote:

>I have to agree with Eric. One company I worked for went from Digital
>Unix, which we had had for years and liked, to HP-UX because it was
>the corporate standard of our new parent company. The problem was not
>with the canned software, Manugistics, but with the fact that we
>didn't know the hardware/operating system. We knew the DEC hardware
>guys very well as well as the guys at Colorado support. We knew who
>was good and who was new at the job. We had to build those
>relationships from scratch with HP. There was also the learning curb
>of figuring out a new product line. We were forever forgetting to
>order a cable or some other small part for the HP's.
>
>I have had some experience with Sun, enough to know they are different
>from HP. There is not enough price difference to make up for the fact
>that you have to rebuild your entire infrastructure. You know things
>like backups, monitoring procedures, account creation procedures,
>printer add procedures, etc. Those are hidden costs you should add to
>your calculations. Unless you have a real good reason to move, stay
>put. Unix is unix from a user prospective. From a sys admin
>perspective, each one might as well be a totally different operating
>system.
>
>Liz
>
>"Eric Bowman" <Doc435_at_mindspring.com> wrote in message news:<a7il4q$9m4$1_at_slb5.atl.mindspring.net>...
>> These two statements give your answer.
>>
>> > My problem is lack of experience actually running a SUN and most input
>> > I get is based more on loyalty rather than subjective review.
>>
>> > We've been an HP shop for 5 years and I can truly say that we're
>> > pretty happy with them. We've always run 24x7x4 support and have never
>> > been left out in the cold.
>>
>> Go with the HP solution. I work for a vendor, and it is my job to spec out
>> the systems for our solutions. Variations in performace, and even
>> reliability, are more than compensated for by in house experience with a
>> give solution, and positive vendor relationship. Our app is
>> database/platform independent to a large degree, and I've put in systems on
>> just about everything from intel servers running OS/2, to IBM 390s. Client
>> satisfaction seems to be much higher when they stick with what they are
>> familiar with, and with the vendors they allready like.
>> -Eric Bowman-
Received on Tue Mar 26 2002 - 21:38:01 CST