Re: How DBA stuff should a Developer learn?

From: Telemachus <telemachus_at_ulysseswillreturn.net>
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 16:50:05 -0000
Message-ID: <2lqj8.6967$W8.57013@news.indigo.ie>

Guy Harrison's book isn't bad either for entry-level performance tuning dive in get what you need.

Jonathan L. 's book is a COMPREHENSIVE look at the thing - aimed at in-depth understanding.

BUT THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE - NONE ! for the Oracle documentation itself.

Look at how often Tom K. refers to it on AskTom and that should give you an idea.

"Paul Brewer" <paul_at_paul.brewers.org.uk> wrote in message news:3c8a7f79_1_at_mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com...
> "Connor McDonald" <connor_mcdonald_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3C893735.3AF3_at_yahoo.com...
> > Liz wrote:
> > >
> > > I would recommend Rich Niemic's book on Oracle Performance Tuning. He
> > > looks at it from both the dba side and the developer side. He marks
> > > the chapters as to which group he is aiming at. Warning there is alot
> > > of info in the book.
> > >
> > > Liz
> > >
> > > "Ryan Gaffuri" <rkg100_at_erols.com> wrote in message
> news:<a60u6k$apv$1_at_bob.news.rcn.net>...
> > > > Posted this on .misc by accident. There are alot more DBA's here...
so
> > > > decided to try here...
> > > >
> > > > I have been a developer for about 18 months now and Ive started
> delving into
> > > > the DBA side of Oracle. I have read the concepts manual and am now
> reading
> > > > the manual on performance tuning. Ill have to read both of those
> atleast
> > > > twice to really pick up all the information. Im slowly reading Tom
> Kyte's
> > > > book as well. Its slow going since most of it is new information.
> > > >
> > > > Ive noticed that many "senior" developers do not bother to learn
this
> side
> > > > of it. What Im learning now is really opening my eyes to alot of
> things that
> > > > I just took for granted. I open a cursor, ok it does what I want.
Its
> pretty
> > > > useful to know what is going on and how its being processed.
> > > >
> > > > I dont think I want to become a DBA. Ill probably head down the data
> > > > modelling/business rules route in time, however, I think that in
order
> to be
> > > > an elite professional in Oracle I should learn more about the
database
> side.
> > > >
> > > > Howard Rogers recommended Practical 8i. Does anyone have any other
> > > > recommendations on specifics of what I should learn?
> > > >
> > > > Also, Im leaning towards getting a Masters in Software Engineering
at
> George
> > > > Mason... how useful is a Masters in this business? I dont have a CS
> degree
> > > > and I have found that that limits my options.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Ryan Gaffuri
> >
> > Yes there is a LOT of info in that book.....
> >
> > ... and the vast majority of it is wrong.
> >
> > Trust me - (and no I'm not on commission) - take a look at the Jonathan
> > Lewis book (practical 8i) for DBA, and Thomas Kyte book (one-on-one) for
> > developers.
> >
> > Its trivial to find serious holes in Niemic's methodology
> >
> > Cheers
> > Connor
> > --
> > ==============================
> > Connor McDonald
> >
> > http://www.oracledba.co.uk
> >
> > "Some days you're the pigeon, some days you're the statue..."

>

> Just my 2c...

>

> I'm not familiar withe Neimic book, so I can't comment on that.
> Lewis and Kyte are probably *the* two must haves, but I recall in the dim
> and distant past an O'Reilly work (Oracle Performance Tuning?) by (I
think)
> Corrigan and Gurry, which I found excellent. If it's been updated, I'd
> suggest it's also worth a look.

>

> HTH,
> Paul

>
>
>

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