Re: Hotbackup without a standby?

Galen Boyer wrote:
>
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, howardjr_at_www.com wrote:
>
> > Presumably you have off-box, if not off-site, backups of your
> > datafiles and controlfiles?
> >
> > A quick bit of shell scripting (or batch file editing) and you
> > can easily arrange for off-box (or off-site) backups of your
> > archivelogs.
>
> > Put the two together, and you have a very recoverable database,
> > regardless of what happens to the host box. If disaster
> > strikes, you've probably lost the current redo... but even with
> > Standby Database that's probably true, since there's no archive
> > of the current log.
>
> Yes. I was having an argument with a guy, and he was adamant
> that archive logging without a standby database was useless. I
> said one still has backed up the database to the last committed
> transaction. His point was more that without a standby, all of
> the data was useless. I was sort of, yeah, I guess it would be
> best to have standby, but having saved your database up until the
> last committed transaction was the more important accomplishment.
> Getting the instance up and running again was much less the
> problem.
>
> > Archivelogs are the only thing standing between you and major
> > data loss. They are, in that respect, extremely useful. I'd
> > hazard a guess and say that 90+% of all production databases
> > run in archivelog mode. Of those, maybe 20% at best have
> > standby's.
>
> I just wanted to make sure I wasn't crazy. I was discussing this
> with a guy who was interviewing me, and I basically backed down
> at the end. The recruitment agency said I won't be called back
> for a second interview and I bet its because I failed that
> question, in his eyes. Hell, it wasn't even for a DBA job, but
> instead a PL/SQL developer and DB design job.
>
> Just as a rant, he also started the interview focusing on the
> fact that I had been 9+ years in consulting and therefore didn't
> know what it was like to work in a "fulltime" position. After
> that nice little introduction, I almost told him that I didn't
> think we would be making any kind of connection and lets not
> waste each other's time.
>
> --
> Galen Boyer
> It seems to me, I remember every single thing I know.

A Story (my own) from the UK:

Agency phones up and says "I'm not putting you forward for that job because they want 3 years plus experience in 9i which you haven't got"

I reply "9i only been out for 2 months"

Their reply... "Hey buddy, you really think you can pull that one on us?"

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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