Re: Advise needed: Can I use/learn Oracle quickly?

From: Erwin Moller <since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much_at_spamyourself.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:16:05 +0100
Message-Id: <402c95ca$0$562$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>

Hi Dr Drudge,

I am aware of the fact that my question sounded lazy and nOObish. I really am, but I was facing the decicion to dive into Oracle the way normally approach new topics (by taking a few weeks off for study to make a decent start), or take my chances in this newsgroup and ask for a quickstart.
The fact that I will only be teaching basic SQL to complete newbies for a few days didn't motivate me to really dive into Oracle. Besides the fact I don't have the time to spare right now.)

I NEVER EVER had the intention to sound like: "Hee guys, can I learn Oracle in , say, 2 days?"

I am not that stupid.

I explicitely ended my posting with this: "I know how annoying it can be when somebody drops into a newsgroup with questions like this (happens to me all the time in c.l.java.*), so please forgive me for that. :-)"

I am NOT aiming at becoming a Oracle specialist, nor I am I trying to fool people. Some friends of just want to learn the basics of SQL, NOT Oracle, but because the underlying database is Oracle, they think it is a good idea to use that Database for this purpose. Makes sense to me.

To me, sorry to say guys, Oracle is just a database. And I have seen a few in my time. As I hear, a very decent stable and flexible one, but I am not intenting to use anything fancy, just basic SQL. Sorry if I insulted somebody. It was unintentional.

Regards and respect,
Erwin Moller

> Erwin Moller
> <since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much_at_spamyourself.com> wrote in
> message news:<402b3e49$0$570$e4fe514c_at_news.xs4all.nl>...

>> > Just visit http://otn.oracle.com  and don't expect we'll forgive you
>> > for not even being willing to visit the Oracle site instead of asking
>> > unnecessary questions.
>> > And, oh yes: with this attitude you'll get nowhere in Oracle.
>> 
>> Thanks a lot Sybrand.
>> You are a real help.
>> 
>> If a newbie asks me a question I take a few minutes to answer politely
>> and try to motivate that newbie.
>> You, however, are clearly so far evolved above the rest of us that you
>> can afford to behave like the arrogant guy you are.
>> Who are you trying to impress? The others in this NG?
>> 
>> If you think I ask silly questions, just don't bother to answer.
>> 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > --
>> > Sybrand Bakker, Senior Oracle DBA

>
> Erwin,
> In defense of Mr Bakker, you really didn't ask questions that deserved
> anything but pointing you to available documentation. This forum is a
> very good resource if you have a specific technical question.
>
> You present yourself as a software professional- you should know
> better than to ask a question that amounts to: "Am I smart enough to
> learn Oracle".
>
> Now, everyone that frequents CDO knows that Sybrand can be
> short/cranky/whatever.
> Those of us that do Oracle for a living take pride in our knowledge
> and accomplishments- your post (most unintentionally) belittles all
> the hard work it takes to be an Oracle proffesional. My guess is that
> is what irritates some people in this ng.
> Maybe you didn't deserve such a response (maybe you did), but when you
> post to a public forum you have to be willing to accept/reject all the
> replies.
>
> And you are right- there are friendlier NGs.
>
> My answer to the OP would be this:
> Oracle is not Postgress. Oracle is not MSSQL. (notice I didn't say
> better).
> You are not equipped to "teach" anything useful about Oracle- I know
> this just by reading the questions.
> If this is a production system you will be getting in over your head
> unless you really do your homework up front.
>
> See the OTN for downloads.
>
> Good luck.
Received on Fri Feb 13 2004 - 03:16:05 CST