RE: OT- raw meat in these days of devops

Reminds me of a manager I had who insisted that "Most DBAs are arsonists. They set a fire so they can put it out, or at best, stand by and watch while someone else, usually a developer, strikes a match. Then they can play hero and put out the fire".

Mladen is spot on, MUCH harder to be PROACTIVE than reactive.

And there's more need than ever for people who UNDERSTAND not only data; but the implications (increasingly hazardous) of "getting it wrong".

At the end of the day, AI and Machine Learning are nothing more than pattern matching and curve fitting, and there are humans "behind the curtains" at every step.

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This sounds like a self-serving platitude of the first order. Do you have any data to base such a bold claim on? Without supporting data and a comprehensive survey, such a claim about "no org" is just a pure charlatanism. DBA is a database subject-matter expert (SME) and there are several kinds of DBA. I am a development DBA who tries to predict performance of the software product that I support before it hits the customer. My role is not reactive. There is also an infrastructure DBA, who is the person to call when your application receives "ORA-00257 Archiver error. Connect internal only until freed" at 3AM or when you receive ORA-01555 because your UNDO tablespace is too small. Those are relatively simple, although ORA-01555 can be really tricky to debug. However, you can get all kinds of ORA-00600 or ORA-07445 and then you need someone who knows how the database works. It's much harder to be a DBA than a charlatan who speculates about what no org wishes or doesn't wish.

On 5/19/21 6:07 PM, kunwar singh wrote:
> DBA is considered a reactive role . No org wants a reactive role now,
> it is 2021 . This movement is now speeded due to pandemic and need
> of more automation.

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