Re: Databases on AWS EC2

From: Kellyn Pot'Vin-Gorman <dbakevlar_at_gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 08:59:53 -0400
Message-ID: <CAN6wuX2JgvOLmMrgi2iwmQ3se03faa4zzEk=2qXKMEsOpard2w_at_mail.gmail.com>



Apologies for the late dip into this conversation. I'll start out with I work for Microsoft, but I also have 20 projects migrating Oracle either with BYOL or migrating to Azure DB. The licensing has been changing to make it more appealing to move to any cloud by Oracle and what Norm describes is how it was before Oracle changed their stance in the last year. The licensing documentation is one for one on vcores, no matter if you are on Oracle's cloud or on AWS or Azure. I can spin up a VM on Azure and build out an Oracle environment very quickly that matches what customers already have, including Data Guard, Goldengate, etc. If the customer wants RAC, the conversation then goes back to why they have RAC. In ever instance, I discovered they had misinterpreted it for HA vs. scalability and I'm able to architect something that makes more sense, but yes, I can build out VMs, put Flexgrid on it and install RAC on top of that.

Azure does handle multi-threaded more efficiently than AWS does, (in my opinion) as their technology is built around multi-threaded processing. Let me know if you have any questions- I'm tech, not licensing, but the specific topic of Oracle licensing on Azure is something I am involved in quite often.

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On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 8:35 AM Norman Dunbar <oracle_at_dunbar-it.co.uk> wrote:

> On 11/04/2019 13:18, Hameed, Amir wrote:
> > We have had a few discussions with Oracle regarding its licensing policy
> > on Azure. Oracle’s position was that one Oracle license was equivalent
> > to one vCPU, irrespective of whether a vCPU is a full core or a thread
> > of a multi-threaded core.
> >
>
> The above is true if you are not running Oracle Linux on Azure. If you
> are, the core factors come back into play again.
>
> I did an Azure migration to Windows recently (ok, about two years ago!)
> and it started with pay for the licence as you use it, then it was bring
> your own licence, then they messed with the core factors. Nothing like
> screwing your customers! :(
>
> That huge cost saving by moving to the cloud? Consider it well ....
>
>
> Cheers,
> Norm.
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