Re: Oracle to Postgres training at PGConf US
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 22:36:28 -0400
Message-ID: <20170721223628.79e53d1e.gogala.mladen_at_gmail.com>
On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 17:36:29 -0600
> You can't judge a conference unless you have experienced it, so your
Not quite true. I have experienced conferences like it, I have even hosted one. That gives me the right to judge. In principle, it is true, it is not possible to accurately judge an event before experiencing it, but I don't have to be at the concert of Toby Keith or Kid Rock to know that they are not playing my kind of music.
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Tim Gorman <tim.evdbt_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> opinion that "it is not a decent conference" has no substance and thus
> is irrelevant.
> Comparing advanced features between an open-source project and its
> costs. It all depends on your requirements.
That is not quite true. We are talking about the software from the same category: relational databases. All relational databases are expected to have certain set of features, in addition to supporting SQL. There is also such a thing as an attitude of the developer community, which is one of the problems with PostgreSQL. We've had one of the very respected members of the PostgreSQL community, Joshua Drake, come to oracle-l and tell us that "hints are optimizer bugs". Quite a brazen statement, if you consider the fact that most of the people on this list know and use hints for quite some time. As a long term Oracle person, I know you've used hints many times, you're an expert on hints, among other things. Do you agree with that statement? I certainly do not, I consider it silly. Would you really want to attend a conference organized mostly by the people who agree with Josh Drake on that silly statement? The funny thing with that statement is that PostgreSQL now does have Oracle style hints, but the old Stonebraker school doesn't give in so easily.
-- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Tel: (347) 321-1217 -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-lReceived on Sat Jul 22 2017 - 04:36:28 CEST