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RE: Heads Up on Grid Control 10.2

From: Mercadante, Thomas F \(LABOR\) <Thomas.Mercadante_at_labor.state.ny.us>
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:37:45 -0400
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As for patching.  

I'm trying to patch r1 to r2. What a mess. Didn't work. And Metalink doesn't respond.  

I'm hoping to get a release 2 CD and start all over again.  



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From: Jared Still [mailto:jkstill_at_gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:35 PM To: Matthew Zito
Cc: Ron.Reidy_at_arraybiopharma.com; Mercadante, Thomas F (LABOR); niall.litchfield_at_gmail.com; Christian Antognini; oracle-l Subject: Re: Heads Up on Grid Control 10.2  

We did a limited demo provisioning pack, patching a 9i database.

Though the database patch I did went smoothly, I would have to see something more convincing than that single demo.

There have been too many patch failures in my past.

We also created a database clone. That is fairly simple though when compared to patching.

Provisioning has other features (bare metal installs, OS and Oracle) but we didn't see any of that.

I might add that this is GC 10gR2. We were told that it works *much* better than GC 10gR1. So maybe the provisioning has been improved a bit over the previous version.

Jared

On 9/29/06, Matthew Zito <mzito_at_gridapp.com> wrote:

Did they demo the provisioning pack? We've had limited success getting it to work in our labs, and most of our customers have given up trying to get it work after a while. I'm curious what they showed in that area.  

Thanks,

Matt                   


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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jared Still

	Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:13 PM
	To: Ron.Reidy_at_arraybiopharma.com
	Cc: Thomas.Mercadante_at_labor.state.ny.us;
niall.litchfield_at_gmail.com; Christian Antognini; oracle-l
	Subject: Re: Heads Up on Grid Control 10.2

	The GC workshop was fairly successful.
	
	I actually liked GC, which is quite different from my
experiences with OEM.         

        We didn't install it, just learned some of the features and how to use it.         

        If you can spend the $$ on the diagnostics pack, it appeared it would

        be a worthwhile purchase. The client makes it fairly easy to drill down

        on problem SQL (which is usually the problem, right?), see the execution

        plan, run the SQL profiler (if you bought the $$ SQL tuning pack) and

        play what-if with the SQL.         

	There was an embarrassing moment for the instructor though, when
	an error popped up trying to show one of the features.  A
problematic
	feature apparently, as she had just finished warning us about
some 
	things occasionally causing trouble.  oops.
	
	A call to the data center in Austin got it fixed.  The feature
in question
	involves running a copy of the Oracle Intelligent Agent in
'beacon'
	mode on a remote PC.  The agent will periodically replay a
transaction 
	(Web based, or C/S based), and allow you to do end-to-end
analysis
	on the latencies of the transaction.  Very nice feature, worthy
of further
	investigation.
	
	Sorry, I did not get the opportunity to ask about the questions
raised in Oracle-L, 
	the class was overbooked, we all used our own notebooks, and the
tech
	folks were kept quite busy.
	
	I did ask explicity questions about licensing however.  If you
are licensed
	to use Oracle, you are licensed to use GC.  This includes Oracle
Application 
	Server, as a runtime license only, as well as the database, also
runtime.         

        You will need to pay for $$ for the extra packs.         

           Diagnostic and SQL Tuning packs - Diag a prereq for the SQL pack.

	   Provisioning Pack 
	   Change Mgt Pack
	
	Those are all extra $$, as well as some of the plugins.  SQL
Server, DB2, ...         
	-- 
	Jared Still
	Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist
	
	




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Jared Still
Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist

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