| Oracle FAQ | Your Portal to the Oracle Knowledge Grid | |
 |
 | |||
| Oracle FAQ | Your Portal to the Oracle Knowledge Grid | |
|
| |||
Home -> Community -> Mailing Lists -> Oracle-L -> RE: Veritas like RMAN?
This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to
consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to
properly handle MIME multipart messages.
--=_C49AE86E.8DEC2300
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Thanks for the clarification. You got me nervous :)
>>> wisernet100_at_yahoo.com 07/23/03 04:09PM >>>
that's not quite what I said.
I said Oracle will not support hot backups done without putting the tablespace into "backup mode" unless that hot backup is done with RMAN. at least that's what I thought I was saying.
you can still do the good old-fashioned "alter tablespace begin
backup"/backup the datafiles/"alter tablespace end backup" sort of
hot
backup
or you can use RMAN and not have to do the begin/end backup
-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: wisernet100_at_yahoo.com Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). --=_C49AE86E.8DEC2300 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY style="MARGIN-TOP: 2px; FONT: 10pt Arial; MARGIN-LEFT: 2px">Thanks for the clarification. You got me nervous :)<BR><BR>>>> wisernet100_at_yahoo.com 07/23/03 04:09PM >>><BR>that's not quite what I said.<BR><BR>I said Oracle will not support hot backups done without putting the<BR>tablespace into "backup mode" unless that hot backup is done with RMAN.<BR><BR>at least that's what I thought I was saying.<BR><BR>you can still do the good old-fashioned "alter tablespace begin<BR>backup"/backup the datafiles/"alter tablespace end backup" sort of hot<BR>backup<BR><BR>or you can use RMAN and not have to do the begin/end backup<BR><BR><BR>--- Gene Sais <Gsais_at_co.palm-beach.fl.us> wrote:<BR>> Rachel - I am confused, now mind you it doesn't take much :). Can<BR>> you<BR>> clarify on a statement you made? Oracle will not support hot backups<BR>> unless done w/ RMAD? I currently do hot backups w/ scripts using<BR>> IBM's<BR>> flashcopy. Is the Oracle Tablespace hot backup mode no longer<BR>> supported? Thanks,<BR>> Gene<BR>> <BR>> >>> DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM 07/23/03 03:04PM >>><BR>> Michael<BR>> But you do have a good reason why the client should hire you. ;-)<BR>> <BR>> Dennis Williams<BR>> DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA<BR>> Lifetouch, Inc.<BR>> dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:39 PM<BR>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> I was afraid of that....<BR>> <BR>><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>> Performing Remote Agent backup<BR>> <BR>> Media Name: "Media created 7/18/2003 08:00:06 PM"<BR>> Backup of "\\FAILSAFE\V$ "<BR>> Backup set #11 on storage media #1<BR>> Backup set description: "DailyBackup"<BR>> Backup Type: FULL - Back Up Files - Reset Archive Bit<BR>> Backup started on 7/19/2003 at 12:59:44 AM.<BR>> <BR>> Backup completed on 7/19/2003 at 1:11:05 AM.<BR>> Backed up 31 files in 4 directories.<BR>> Processed 5,785,060,909 bytes in 11 minutes and 21 seconds.<BR>> Throughput rate: 486.1 MB/min<BR>><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> This doesn't give me a "warm" feeling. Alert log shows NOTHING.<BR>> <BR>> This is a manufacturing site where the click of a bar code<BR>> reader is moving materials from one location to another and<BR>> that may or may not occur at any time. I'm not positive that<BR>> one could say that this would never happen. Every time I've<BR>> been in there looking around random jobs are coming into<BR>> dbms_jobs in what appears to be all hours of the night.<BR>> <BR>> They have an export, but I think that's it. If they take<BR>> a backup on Sunday, I think everything is shutdown. It<BR>> MIGHT be good if the moon is right.<BR>> <BR>> Maks.<BR>> <BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> Rachel Carmichael<BR>> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:59 PM<BR>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> you don't have backups. Oracle will only support recovery from hot<BR>> backups taken when the tablespaces are not flagged as in backup mode<BR>> if<BR>> you do the backup via RMAN.<BR>> <BR>> Technically, if you are very very lucky, the moon is in the seventh<BR>> house and Jupiter has aligned with Mars, you *MIGHT* be able to use<BR>> the<BR>> hot backup taken without RMAN. If and only if there is absolutely NO<BR>> activity whatsoever in the database from the time the backup starts<BR>> until when it finishes. Even then, recovery is still not supported.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> --- Michael Kline <mkline1_at_comcast.net> wrote:<BR>> > I found no signs of RMAN being used in<BR>> > any way shape or form...<BR>> > <BR>> > I've been told they are doing "hot" backups<BR>> > using Veritas... HOWEVER, the alert log shows<BR>> > no signs what so ever of "alter tablespace<BR>> > xyz begin/end backup"... <BR>> > <BR>> > Can it do a good backup backing up live<BR>> > DB files and leaving no signs what so<BR>> > ever that backup took place.<BR>> > <BR>> > Is Veritas capable of this? <BR>> > <BR>> > If so, why is there a Veritas interface<BR>> > to RMAN???<BR>> > <BR>> > Confusion, confusion...<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Michael Alan Kline, Sr.<BR>> > Principal Consultant<BR>> > Business to Business Solutions, LLC<BR>> > Phone: 804-744-1545 Cell: 804-314-6262<BR>> > ICQ: 1009605, 975313<BR>> > Email: mkline_at_b2bsol.com Web: <A href="http://www.b2bsol.com/">www.b2bsol.com</A> <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> __________________________________<BR>> Do you Yahoo!?<BR>> Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software<BR>> <A href="http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com/">http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com</A> <BR>> -- <BR>> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: <A href="http://www.orafaq.net/">http://www.orafaq.net</A> <BR>> -- <BR>> Author: Rachel Carmichael<BR>> INET: wisernet100_at_yahoo.com <BR>> <BR>> Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 <A href="http://www.fatcity.com/">http://www.fatcity.com</A> <BR>> San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services<BR>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message<BR>> to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in<BR>> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L<BR>> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may<BR>> also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).<BR>> -- <BR>> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: <A href="http://www.orafaq.net/">http://www.orafaq.net</A> <BR>> -- <BR>> Author: Michael Kline<BR>> INET: mkline1_at_comcast.net <BR>> <BR>> Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 <A href="http://www.fatcity.com/">http://www.fatcity.com</A> <BR>> San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services<BR>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message<BR>> to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in<BR>> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L<BR>> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may<BR>> also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).<BR>> -- <BR>> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: <A href="http://www.orafaq.net/">http://www.orafaq.net</A> <BR>> -- <BR>> Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS<BR>> INET: DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM <BR>> <BR>> Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 <A href="http://www.fatcity.com/">http://www.fatcity.com</A> <BR>> San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services<BR>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message<BR>> to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in<BR>> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L<BR>> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may<BR>> also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).<BR>> <BR>> <BR><BR><BR>__________________________________<BR>Do you Yahoo!?<BR>Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software<BR><A href="http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com/">http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com</A><BR>-- <BR>Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: <A href="http://www.orafaq.net/">http://www.orafaq.net</A><BR>-- <BR>Author: Rachel Carmichael<BR> INET: wisernet100_at_yahoo.com<BR><BR>Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 <A href="http://www.fatcity.com/">http://www.fatcity.com</A><BR>San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services<BR>---------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message<BR>to:Received on Wed Jul 23 2003 - 14:35:20 CDT
 |
 |