I am looking for a People Soft Oracle
application candidate for one of my clients. Please respond with your interest.
Thanks Dick Vander Laan from R Vander Search LLC. Great client. Thanks
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Michael Netrusov
To: <A href="mailto:ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com"
title=ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 1:26
PM
Subject: Re: Re:RE: RE: Oracle DBA
evolution path - please share your opi
I think I forgot to put a smile in
my previous letter. Sorry, I didn't mean to offend all the
respectable software development companies.
I didn't speak only about developers ..
Developers are responsible for the code, DA is responsible for
the ER-model, DBA is responsible for support / maintenance. All of those
people are responsible for the end product. <FONT
face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>
Take PeopleSoft, Oracle
Applications, Platinum, Scala, etc - all of those products are known for
their overcomplicated maintenance. Do those companies have time / money
to redesign / rewrite their products? Yes. Do they do it? No. It's
all about the enormous amount of money they make on customization /
support. The DA's and developers can be well-meaning though and never be
aware of the whole plan :-)).
Regards,
Michael Netrusov, www.atelo.com
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<A href="mailto:Jacques.Kilchoer_at_quest.com"
title=Jacques.Kilchoer_at_quest.com>Jacques Kilchoer
To: <A
href="mailto:ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com" title=ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>Multiple
recipients of list ORACLE-L
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001
14:01
Subject: RE: Re:RE: RE: Oracle DBA
evolution path - please share your opi
> -----Original Message----- >
From: Michael Netrusov [<A
href="mailto:mn_at_g-fax.com">mailto:mn_at_g-fax.com] <FONT
size=2>> > Yes, you are absolutely right,
nobody is having interest in > selling quality
products. > Money is coming from the support of
the product, not from the > selling of the
product itself. If the product is well-written, then <FONT
size=2>> it'll be no big deal with maintenance, hence no money from
> contractors who support and "customize" the
application ( > read: fix the <FONT
size=2>> numerous bugs on fly and try to make the whole $hit work ).
> The more complicated the product, the more
money is paid for it's > maintenance. The more
money is paid, the more people are is >
interested in working with it. The only problem is to sell the
whole > stuff - but it's only a matter of the
sales department' qualification.
Coming from a development company, I think I have to point
out that in my humble opinion the statements above are an unfair
generalization. I think developpers in general try to produce a well-written
product, and the fact that products get more complicated is that users
expect more features from newer versions.
To give an analogy, if I posted on this list "all DBAs try
to have a database that requires a lot of manual maintenance and don't
document anthing - that's in their interest for job security", I'm sure
there would be a general outcry.
- any ignorant comments made
are the sole responsibility of J. R. Kilchoer and should not reflect
adversely upon my employer.
Jacques R. Kilchoer
(949) 754-8816 Quest Software,
Inc. 8001 Irvine Center Drive <FONT
size=2>Irvine, California 92618 U.S.A.
<A href="http://www.quest.com"
target=_blank>http://www.quest.com
Received on Mon Mar 19 2001 - 20:44:59 CST
