Re: Thanks and another book request

From: Rachel Carmichael <carmichr_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 17:34:42 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.002A9C38.20010202171521@fatcity.com>

Pat,

I love you :) and I sympathize even more with you -- you worked on your husband's stuff and didn't get paid!

let's elaborate on the work that no one sees:

the way marlene and I wrote was:

we divided the chapters, she wrote some, I wrote others, I did the copy-edit and pageproofing

So for each chapter:

either I wrote it or I read what Marlene wrote (and she did the same for me, we edited each other's work before we even sent the 1st draft in to the publisher)
send the chapter to the tech editor
review the tech editor's comments and incorporate suggested changes
send the chapter in to the publisher for copy-edit
review the copy editor's changes and either change things back or accept them
read the initial set of page proofs (yes, copy on paper of what the page will look like) and find and correct all errors
because I am anal about errors, and my editors know this, I get a final set of page proofs to review and catch anything I missed the first time
get a bound copy of the book and look through it one last time

So, not only do I spend hours writing a chapter, once it's written I have to see it over and over and over and OVER again until I am deathly sick of the chapter and convinced that what we have on the page is garbage that no one will want to read.

Rachel

>From: Pat Hildebrand <pat_at_ssc.upenn.edu>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: Re: Thanks and another book request
>Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 13:10:08 -0800
>
>
> >
> > Rachael
> >
> > > consultant for that number of hours.... Not profitable to write one.
> >
> > The very fact that you often repeat this in response to mails that refer
>to
> > your books, makes us think otherwise $$$
> >
>
>I have not written any Oracle books but I have had enough experience
>with publishers that I really have to step in here. My husband
>happened to be one of three authors on a monograph that had enough
>popularity to stick around for quite awhile now. Want to guess his
>share of the yearly royalties (split equally between the three of
>them)? Approximately $100. Okay over twenty years that's a couple
>thousand. He repeatly said that the only reason to write a book was
>because you got mad at what was available; it certainly wasn't for the
>money. The monograph was not something that would need to be updated
>all the time the way an Oracle book would be.
>
>The need for new editions opens up the book to driving your life. I
>did some work on supplemental work for my husband's textbooks and
>trying that with a full time job is something I would not wish on my
>worst enemy. Impossible deadlines still need to be met by you but
>don't count on getting things back when promised - your time to make
>the changes is just squeezed.
>
>If Rachael is one of the really limited number of people who make what
>might be considered a reasonable return on her time, I say more power
>to her. However, it is more likely that she has to repeat because
>people don't believe her.
>
>
>
> Pat
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