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RE: OT NT2K vs Unix.

From: Rocky Welch <>
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 13:41:44 -0800
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 You’re right about that, Ross. People can use Microsoft products, businesses cannot. Of course the world does need organized recipes and an animated paper clip to remind them of cousin Tilly’s wedding so in that regard I guess Microsoft products are useful. :o)
  "Mohan, Ross" <> wrote:


Did you realize you DO have to reboot after some Solaris package installs?  Maybe not "all" and maybe not "Solaris 8", but.....certainly some of them with kernel hooks in 2.5.


Most of them due to poor third party driver authoring -- MS, a software company, gave too much MoJo to developers. Imagine that. Same reason most of their software swamps the market. People can USE it. Shocking Development!  <G>

-----Original Message-----From: Rocky Welch []Sent: Thursday, February 01, 20001 3:28 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: OT NT2K vs Unix. From the URL: PCs Stay Up and Running
Memory conflicts and missing or altered system files caused many of the system crashes prior to Windows 2000. To put an end to these problems, we changed Windows 2000 memory management to reduce the chance that software applications will interfere with one another. Applications runing in a seprate memory area...HMMMMMM Unix did that 15 years ago. Fewer Reboots
Performing routine maintenance on your system requires significantly fewer reboots, therefore less downtime, with Windows 2000. In addition, with its support for Plug and Play, Windows 2000 automatically recognizes and adapts to hardware changes. This means users can easily add hardware devices such as scanners, DVD players, and speakers without rebooting, and with less potential for user error. Reboots are also reduced-and reliability increased-through the Microsoft hardware device driver certification program. This program helps ensure that hardware drivers are compatible with Windows 2000, and do not require a reboot after installation. Certified drivers are tested and digitally signed by Microsoft. If Windows 2000 detects a driver that Microsoft has not digitally signed, it warns users about the risk before they install it on their system Not having to reboot after installing an application....Unix from it's beginings. How Much More Reliable Is Windows 2000 Professional? Third-party studies that assess reliability from three different perspectives-lab-based testing, customer-site measurement, and user perceptions-conclude that Windows 2000 Professional is the most reliable desktop operating system. Highest Reliability in Production Environments NSTL collected uptime data in the real-world environment of several customer sites and concluded that the average system uptime between failures of Windows 2000 Professional is 13 times more than that of Windows 98 and three times more than that of Windows NT Workstation 4.0. Notice no comparison to Unix. It's like people that hangout with socially unacceptable people to make themselves look better (Hey! Wait a minute! Is that why alot of people want to hang out with me? ). I guess you're right they aren't the same. Unix posts much higher numbers. Sorry, it's sarcastic Thursdsay here. I love the debate about Windows and Unix. ;o)
  Kevin Kostyszyn <> wrote:

I would disagree with that, how is Windows becoming like Unix?

-----Original Message-----From: []On Behalf Of Rocky WelchSennnt: Thursday, February 01, 2001 2:01 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: OT NT2K vs Unix. The same prediction was made at least 5 years ago. At the rate Microsoft is going, Windows will be a direct form of Unix. It becomes more like it with every release. -Rocky
  "Mohan, Ross" <> wrote:

Yea, but......
Win2K Datacenter will just decimate Unix. I predict that, in 5 years, there will be two or three Unix vendors, fighting over the 45% of the market that DataCenter hasn't eaten. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Orr []]]] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 1:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: OT_RE:_Réf._:_Re:_asyn_i/o_on_sun_ Close. It's Dave Cutler. There's too much old DOS/Windows backward compatibility for WinNT/2000 to achieve stability like VMS despite Cutler's leadership. I knew VMS and you, Mr. NT, are no VMS! With apologies to Senator Bentsen, Steve Orr -----Original Message----- stephane Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 9:22 AM&&< To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L NT is based on VMS (talk about a real OS) and if my memory is good the guy's name is Cutter. Do I win a toaster ? a microwave oven ? a palm-pilot ? --- "Mohan, Ross" <> a écrit : > "...Standing,  corrected, and sniggering....." > Odd picture, that...... > > > Anyways, pop quiz: > > On what OS kernel technology is NT based? > > Who was the original designer and what was his/her > first OS? > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: -- Author: Steve Orr   INET:

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