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RE: OT NT2K vs Unix.

From: Mohan, Ross <>
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 13:40:55 -0800
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size=2>Amen......there are very few new "discoveries" and many many enhancements.
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One of
the reasons the Japanese automakers have been KICKING AMERICAN FANNY
oh, twenty years, is their simple, dogged *improvement* of our methods. They even
William Deming, a guy we just shrugged off in the 50's...he revolutionized QA
TQM over there. .....
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SARCASM:    A cutting,
often ironic remark intended to wound.
( is
it "mean" to intend to wound? )
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----<FONT   face=Arial color=#0000ff> 
  class=637282921-01022001> From: Kevin Kostyszyn   []Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 4:18   PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE:   OT NT2K vs Unix.
  points and don't worry about the sarcasm, at least you are honest about   it.  Sometimes I can't tell if people are being mean, or sarcastic.    

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  size=2>Anyway, back to the argument.
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  color=#0000ff size=2>What it would seem like to me is that because Microsoft   is trying to improve their platform you are arguing that they are moving more   towards Unix.  That's not right.  They are trying to improve their   system.  Just because the Unix OS already had some of the functions that   made it more stable doesn't mean that MS is copying Unix.  For the love   of goodness, if I think that way everyone is copying everyone else in some   form or another!  When air bags came out and car manufacturers starting   putting them in their vehicles standard, did anyone walk around pointing   fingers and saying "Hey, that was our idea come up with your own precautionary   measures to avoid disaster!!!"   
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  size=2>  hehehhehehe Kev   

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    size=2>-----Original Message-----From:     []On Behalf Of Rocky WelchSent:     Thursday, February 01, 2001 3:28 PMTo: Multiple recipients of     list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: OT NT2K vs Unix.     From the URL:
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    Notice no comparison to Unix. It's like people that hangout with socially     unacceptable people to make themselves look better (Hey! Wait a minute! Is     that why alot of people want to hang out with me? ). I guess you're right     they aren't the same. Unix posts much higher numbers.     Sorry, it's sarcastic Thursdsay here. I love the debate about Windows and     Unix. ;o)
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      size=2>I would disagree with that, how is Windows becoming like 
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        size=2>-----Original Message-----From: 
        []On Behalf Of Rocky 
        WelchSennt: Thursday, February 01, 2001 2:01 PMTo: 
        Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: OT NT2K vs 
        The same prediction was made at least 5 years ago. At the rate 
        Microsoft is going, Windows will be a direct form of Unix. It becomes 
        more like it with every release. 
          "Mohan, Ross" <> 
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          Yea, but...... 
          Win2K Datacenter will just decimate Unix. I predict 
          that, in 5 years, there will be two or three 
          Unix vendors, fighting over the 45% of the 
          market that DataCenter hasn't eaten. 
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          size=2>From: Steve Orr [<A 
          Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 1:01 PM 
          To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
          Subject: RE: 
          Close. It's Dave Cutler. There's too much old 
          DOS/Windows backward compatibility for 
          WinNT/2000 to achieve stability like VMS despite Cutler's 
          I knew VMS and you, Mr. NT, are no VMS! 
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          size=2>Steve Orr 
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          size=2>stephane Sent: Thursday, February 01, 
          2001 9:22 AM&< To: Multiple recipients 
          of list ORACLE-L 
          NT is based on VMS (talk about a real OS) and if 
          my memory is good the guy's name is 
          Do I win a toaster ? a microwave oven ? a palm-pilot 
          --- "Mohan, Ross" <> a 
          écrit : > "...Standing,  
          corrected, and sniggering....." > Odd 
          picture, that...... > <FONT 
          size=2>> > Anyways, pop quiz: 
          > > On what OS kernel 
          technology is NT based? > <FONT 
          size=2>> Who was the original designer and what was his/her 
          > first OS? > 
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