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RE: Your frank opinion

From: Shockey, David <DShockey_at_jwrinc.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:18:43 -0500
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Machiavelli described three types of intelligence: Those who understand, those who understand when shown, and those who do not understand even when shown. Memorizing is not understanding.

I think I was born without the panic gene.

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From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:carmichr_at_hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 9:59 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Your frank opinion

Guy,

Bravo! We are paid for our experience and our ability to THINK. Any one can

memorize.. but applying what they have memorized is a skill that is worth big bucks.

That, and the ability not to panic when something goes wrong :)

Rachel

>From: guy ruth hammond <grh_at_agency.com>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: Re: Your frank opinion
>Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 01:18:11 -0800
>
>Deepak Sharma wrote:
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > Absolutely true. Knowledge is what we get paid for.
> > This has been my experience too regd the work I have
> > been doing, (esp. Physical DBA).
>
>Ah, but we're not really paid for knowledge. Consider: everything
>I know about Oracle (and a whole lot more besides) you can get for
>the price of downloading Adobe Acrobat, then registering on Oracle
>Technology Network. While it is true that it is possible to make a
>living as a "walking encyclopedia", our value is that we can take
>knowledge of the technology, and the business scenario, and combine
>them into a solution. Latter day alchemists, if you please :0)
>
>When I was a kid at school, you could earn gold stars on the chart
>on the wall (this was a long time ago... ) by standing in front of
>the class and reciting a multiplication table. Even back then, I never
>bothered to memorize them, like the other kids did: I'd just work them
>out whenever I needed to. And nowadays, I'd be hard pressed to describe
>some of the more obscure SQL syntax, but I can just look that up. Our
>skill is knowing what can be done, then reducing it to what should be
>done. Oh, and knowing how to post to this list ;0)
>
>g
>
>
>
>--
>guy ruth hammond <grh_at_agency.com> | One is punished for being
>Technology Analysis & Consulting | weak, not for being cruel.
>07879607148 http://www.agency.com | -- Baudelaire
>
>
>--
>Author: guy ruth hammond
> INET: grh_at_agency.com
>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Machiavelli described three types of intelligence: =
Those who understand, those who understand when shown, and those who do =
not understand even when shown.&nbsp; Memorizing is not =
understanding.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I think I was born without the panic gene.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Rachel Carmichael [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:carmichr_at_hotmail.com">mailto:carmichr_at_hotmail.com</A>]</F=
ONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 9:59 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: Your frank opinion</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Guy,</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Bravo!&nbsp; We are paid for our experience and our =
ability to THINK. Any one can </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>memorize.. but applying what they have memorized is =
a skill that is worth </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>big bucks.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>That, and the ability not to panic when something =
goes wrong :)</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Rachel</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;From: guy ruth hammond =
&lt;grh_at_agency.com&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L =
&lt;ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Subject: Re: Your frank opinion</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 01:18:11 -0800</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Deepak Sharma wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Joe,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Absolutely true. Knowledge is what we get =
paid for.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; This has been my experience too regd the =
work I have</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; been doing, (esp. Physical DBA).</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Ah, but we're not really paid for knowledge. =
Consider: everything</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;I know about Oracle (and a whole lot more =
besides) you can get for</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;the price of downloading Adobe Acrobat, then =
registering on Oracle</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Technology Network. While it is true that it is =
possible to make a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;living as a &quot;walking encyclopedia&quot;, =
our value is that we can take</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;knowledge of the technology, and the business =
scenario, and combine</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;them into a solution. Latter day alchemists, if =
you please :0)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;When I was a kid at school, you could earn gold =
stars on the chart</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;on the wall (this was a long time ago... ) by =
standing in front of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;the class and reciting a multiplication table. =
Even back then, I never</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;bothered to memorize them, like the other kids =
did: I'd just work them</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;out whenever I needed to. And nowadays, I'd be =
hard pressed to describe</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;some of the more obscure SQL syntax, but I can =
just look that up. Our</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;skill is knowing what can be done, then reducing =
it to what should be</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;done. Oh, and knowing how to post to this list =
;0)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;g</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;--</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;guy ruth hammond &lt;grh_at_agency.com&gt; | One is =
punished for being</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Technology Analysis &amp; Consulting&nbsp; | =
weak, not for being cruel.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;07879607148 <A HREF=3D"http://www.agency.com" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.agency.com</A> =
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -- Baudelaire</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;--</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;Author: guy ruth hammond</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; INET: grh_at_agency.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Author: Rachel Carmichael</FONT>
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