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RE: Work vs marriage

From: Shockey, David <DShockey_at_jwrinc.com>
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 14:57:34 -0500
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I'm with you Walt! If they ever tell me that I have to start putting in more than an eight-hour day or work weekends then I'll tell them they can keep their $200K and hand them the keys to the company Lexus.

Just kidding of course. I've paid my dues on more than one big project. I keep it around forty hours a week now. The wife and kids are better for it and when they are happy I am happy.

-----Original Message-----
From: Walt Weaver [mailto:wweaver_at_rightnowtech.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 11:23 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Work vs marriage

I purposely seek out employment that lets me spend more time with my family and my fun pursuits, i.e. soaring, fly fishing, etc.

I enjoy DBA work, but I enjoy my off time more. I live where I want to live, and while my salary is probably half of what most people make on this list, I spend most of my evenings and weekends where I want to be: with my family, or in the sky, or on the river.

I'll leave the 80-hour weeks to you workaholics. Life's too short for that crap, IMHO.

--Walt Weaver
  Bozeman, Montana, USA

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 6:18 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I have a story like this to tell;

Some time ago I had to work during the weekend for some ^#$&* hacked our computers.
On Wednesday I took the wife and kids to the circus and some hamburger-restaurant. They asked me 'when's the next weekend you have to work?'
The guy next to me didn't do this, and his family tells him 'not to work that much'

I think we all know that if everything ok at home, work goes well too.... (and v.v.)

Eric Lansu

> Dick,
> I want to work for you...
>
> Tom Harleman
> 11080 Willowmere Dr.
> Indianapolis, IN 46280
> 317-844-2884 Home
> 317-843-9122 Home Office
>
> -----Original Message-----
> dgoulet_at_vicr.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 10:38 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Tony,
>
> Many a year ago I too came home to a similar situation, after 48 hours
> on
> the flight line, coaxing a number of KC-135's & an SR-71 into the air.
> After
> getting some sleep, listening to the wife complain about "how much of a
> work-aholic" I was & reading a book to my three daughters before they went
> to
> bed, I found what I was missing. Since then, work is whatever time I
spend
> at
> work or if I wake up early in the morning (of my own volition, not the
alarm
> clock). And I take my wife out at least once a week. Marriage has never
> been
> better. This weekend we collectively spend the entire three days out on
the
> yard getting her flowers all planted, trimmed, etc... Boy does my back
> ache!!
>
> In short and in my opinion, If you aren't spending at least as much
time
> working on your marriage as you spend at work, you really can't complain
at
> the
> results!! That goes for ALL of us, guys & gals.
>
> Dick Goulet, MSgt, USAF (retired)
> Senior Oracle DBA
> Vicor Corporation
>
> ____________________Reply Separator____________________
> Author: Sherwin Anthony Sequeira <sherwin_at_sequeira.ezesurf.co.uk>
> Date: 5/26/00 8:04 PM
>
> > i hear u both, i'm supposed to leave at 3P on friday, at 2:50P,
developer
> > emails me about out of space on a PK index(partitioned), so i think no
> > biggie, i dont have DBA privs(its a production db and i dont do
> production),
> > so i start digging and realize its a range partitioned index and the
> ranges
> > are WAY OFF. so i spend this evening, figuring out the correct ranges
and
> > rebuild the index.
> >
> > bahhhhh
> >
> >
> > joe
>
> Joe,
>
> Please accept my commiserations. Users, don't you love them?
>
> I spent this evening driving 3 hours (70 miles) through pelting
rain
> and
> Bank holiday traffic, coming home to a loving daughter and a not so loving
> wife.
>
> I spent the day demonstrating Oracle's point in time recovery to a
> customer. Unfortunately the redo logs were screwed, with no backups! So
> much
> for the demo.
>
> But, I spent the evening playing snooker and drinking Honey Dew.
> Now
> catching up with the list.
>
> I bet you still enjoy it though eh!
>
> Regards.
>
> Tony
> --
> S. A. Sequeira
>
> --
> Author: Sherwin Anthony Sequeira
> INET: sherwin_at_sequeira.ezesurf.co.uk
>

--
Author: Eric Lansu
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I'm with you Walt!&nbsp; If they ever tell me that I =
have to start putting in more than an eight-hour day or work weekends =
then I'll tell them they can keep their $200K and hand them the keys to =
the company Lexus.&nbsp; </FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Just kidding of course.&nbsp; I've paid my dues on =
more than one big project.&nbsp; I keep it around forty hours a week =
now.&nbsp; The wife and kids are better for it and when they are happy =
I am happy.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Walt Weaver [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:wweaver_at_rightnowtech.com">mailto:wweaver_at_rightnowtech.com=
</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 11:23 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: Work vs marriage</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I purposely seek out employment that lets me spend =
more time with my family</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>and my fun pursuits, i.e. soaring, fly fishing, =
etc.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I enjoy DBA work, but I enjoy my off time more. I =
live where I want to live,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>and while my salary is probably half of what most =
people make on this list,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>I spend most of my evenings and weekends where I =
want to be: with my family,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>or in the sky, or on the river.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I'll leave the 80-hour weeks to you workaholics. =
Life's too short for that</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>crap, IMHO.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>--Walt Weaver</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp; Bozeman, Montana, USA</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 6:18 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I have a story like this to tell;</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Some time ago I had to work during the weekend for =
some ^#$&amp;* hacked our</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>computers.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>On Wednesday I took the wife and kids to the circus =
and some</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>hamburger-restaurant. They asked me 'when's the next =
weekend you have to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>work?'</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>The guy next to me didn't do this, and his family =
tells him 'not to work</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>that much'</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I think we all know that if everything ok at home, =
work goes well too....</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>(and v.v.)</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Eric Lansu</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>----- Original Message -----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: &quot;Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L&quot; =
&lt;ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Tuesday, 30 May 2000 22:47</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Dick,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; I want to work for you...</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Tom Harleman</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 11080 Willowmere Dr.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Indianapolis, IN 46280</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 317-844-2884 Home</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 317-843-9122 Home Office</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; dgoulet_at_vicr.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 10:38 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Tony,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Many a year ago I too =
came home to a similar situation, after 48 hours</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; on</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; the flight line, coaxing a number of KC-135's =
&amp; an SR-71 into the air.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; After</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; getting some sleep, listening to the wife =
complain about &quot;how much of a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; work-aholic&quot; I was &amp; reading a book to =
my three daughters before they went</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; bed, I found what I was missing.&nbsp; Since =
then, work is whatever time I</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>spend</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; at</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; work or if I wake up early in the morning (of =
my own volition, not the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>alarm</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; clock).&nbsp; And I take my wife out at least =
once a week.&nbsp; Marriage has never</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; been</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; better.&nbsp; This weekend we collectively =
spend the entire three days out on</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; yard getting her flowers all planted, trimmed, =
etc...&nbsp; Boy does my back</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; ache!!</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; In short and in my =
opinion, If you aren't spending at least as much</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>time</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; working on your marriage as you spend at work, =
you really can't complain</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>at</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; results!!&nbsp; That goes for ALL of us, guys =
&amp; gals.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Dick Goulet, MSgt, USAF (retired)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Senior Oracle DBA</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Vicor Corporation</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; ____________________Reply =
Separator____________________</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Author: Sherwin Anthony Sequeira =
&lt;sherwin_at_sequeira.ezesurf.co.uk&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Date:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
5/26/00 8:04 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; i hear u both, i'm supposed to leave at 3P =
on friday, at 2:50P,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>developer</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; emails me about out of space on a PK =
index(partitioned), so i think no</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; biggie, i dont have DBA privs(its a =
production db and i dont do</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; production),</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; so i start digging and realize its a range =
partitioned index and the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; ranges</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; are WAY OFF.&nbsp; so i spend this =
evening, figuring out the correct ranges</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; rebuild the index.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; bahhhhh</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; joe</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Joe,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Please accept my commiserations.&nbsp; Users, don't you love =
them?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
I spent this evening driving 3 hours (70 miles) through pelting</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>rain</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Bank holiday traffic, coming home to a loving =
daughter and a not so loving</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; wife.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
I spent the day demonstrating Oracle's point in time recovery to =
a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; customer.&nbsp; Unfortunately the redo logs =
were screwed, with no backups!&nbsp; So</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; much</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; for the demo.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
But, I spent the evening playing snooker and drinking Honey Dew.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Now</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; catching up with the list.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
I bet you still enjoy it though eh!</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Regards.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Tony</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; --</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; S. A. Sequeira</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; --</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Author: Sherwin Anthony Sequeira</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; INET: =
sherwin_at_sequeira.ezesurf.co.uk</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>--</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Author: Eric Lansu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp; INET: eric.lansu_at_quicknet.nl</FONT>
</P>

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