Re: the passing of a champion

On 4 juil, 23:54, Cimode <cim..._at_hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 4 juil, 23:27, paul c <toledobythe..._at_oohay.ac> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Cimode wrote:
> > > On 4 juil, 19:32, paul c <toledobythe..._at_oohay.ac> wrote:
> > >> Keith H Duggar wrote:
> > >>> OPEN INFORMATION
> > ....
> > > Interesting.  This post mortem ghost reflexion (and I mean that in a
> > > respectful way) does sound like a testament to future generations of
> > > scientists.  Once again, it is fascinating to observe that the post
> > > industrial Western thirst for an immediate instutionalization of
> > > empirical discoveries has hit the brick wall of historical science
> > > realism.  History indeed tells a totally different story.  It took
> > > *centuries* for Greek mathematical empirism to be rediscovered,
> > > corrected and clarified by Algebra (notably by Arabs, Indians and
> > > Persians).  Why would relational model be any different ?
>
> > > The truth is that a historical perspective on contemporary science is
> > > always a far too risky endeavour.  History of exact sciences is indeed
> > > made of slow-paced truth discoveries, implementation underachievements
> > > and rediscovered opportunities,and all of these may be  separated by
> > > centuries of forgotten formalisms.
>
> > > It seems too early for the potential of the relational model to become
> > > institutionnalized by western post industrial societies where
> > > educational system are going down the hill, overtaken by corporate
> > > consumerist truth-conditionning training programs.  The most probable
> > > scenario is that the relational model will probably be rediscovered
> > > some day by some unknown scientist from Africa Asia.  And quite
> > > frankly I don't see it happening in my lifetime.
>
> > > IMHO.
>
> > And there were so few doing the 'rediscovering'.  It makes me think that
> > the modern notion of mass literacy is an illusion.
>
> <<It makes me think that
> the modern notion of mass literacy is an illusion. >>
> Throughout history, mass literacy has mainly been a purpose driven
> political *myth*.  A convenient and self sustaining myth that
> guarantees its survival by giving people the  *illusion* of making
> rational choices.
>
> Yes.  Empires need mythes to survive.  When the mythes are not
> sufficient anymore, the empire falls down.

In other words, when irrational beliefs and mysticism are not sufficent anymore for a governing elite to mind control people, what remains left is the myth of mass education. Call it a MINUS operator. Received on Sun Jul 05 2009 - 00:02:34 CEST