Re: Object-oriented thinking in SQL context?

On Jun 11, 12:47 am, Gene Wirchenko <ge..._at_ocis.net> wrote:
> David BL <davi..._at_iinet.net.au> wrote:
> >On Jun 10, 8:28 am, Bob Badour <bbad..._at_pei.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> Gene Wirchenko wrote:
> >> > rp_at_raampje.(none) (Reinier Post) wrote:
>
> >> >>Bob Badour wrote:
>
> >> >>>>Some people in this newsgroup believe that the relational model
> >> >>>>is sacred, its inventor Codd was a holy man, and a guy called Date
> >> > ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^
> >> >>>>who has written a bunch of popular books on the subject is his
> >> > ^^^
> >> >>>>replacement on earth.
> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> >>>You are an idiot if that is what you honestly believe.
>
> >> >>That attitude exactly.
>
> >> Noting Reinier's idiocy does not indicate or communicate anything about
> >> holiness or sanctity.
>
> >> > I think that what I have caretted shows more bad attitude. You
> >> > insult people and then complain about their attitude. I think Bob was
> >> > wrong to call you an idiot. He should have called you a fool.
>
> >> No, he is an idiot. He has been here long enough for any reasonably
> >> intelligent person to know how absurd his accusations are. Regardless
> >> whether one uses the term 'idiot' or 'fool', he is demonstrably very stupid.
>
> >Actually Reinier is very intelligent. BB is as well. However BB is
> >also a jerk. Only a jerk would for example, mock the OP who claimed
> >ignorance and asked for help. For example, the OP said:
>
> He did not mock. He gave a reply.
>
> > "I'd appreciate any key words to look for when
> > re-reading the material. I'm using Teorey's
> > "Database Modeling and Design: Logical Design",
> > 4th edition."
>
> >and Bob replies with
>
> > "Keywords? Introduction, preamble, prologue, chapter 1.
> > I would start with one of those. Not sure which
> > terminology Teorey uses in the 4th edition, but I am
> > sure you will find something suitable shortly after
> > Table of Contents."
>
> >This is clearly intended to mock, and in a nasty way. It is typical of
>
> Is it? I read it as "If you start at the beginning, you will
> find what you are looking for." Sometimes, just getting started can
> be the biggest hurdle.

It's the same message, but that's the polite version. Bob's version was offensive. It suggested the OP was so dumb he needed to be told in detail how to read a book from the beginning.

> Too many are after the magic incantation. There is no substitute
> for sitting down and studying.

Completely agree.

> >BB. Perhaps BB could himself do with some suggestions for reading
> >material - books with titles like "How to win friends and influence
> >people".
>
> Is your statement intended to mock, and in a nasty way?

Yes, obviously. I have no problem mocking a bully.

> >Of course Reinier was also mocking various regulars in the newsgroup.
> >However, I found his comment quite amusing - and nothing like BB's
> >aggressive tone. BB's reaction also suggests lack of balance.
>
> Oooh, balance! It is so important to have balance. Ha! Sense
> and nonsense should not be getting equal time.
Received on Thu Jun 11 2009 - 01:00:05 CEST