Re: Object-oriented thinking in SQL context?

Gene Wirchenko wrote:
> rp_at_raampje.(none) (Reinier Post) wrote:
>

>> Bob Badour wrote:
>>
>>>> Some people in this newsgroup believe that the relational model
>>>> is sacred, its inventor Codd was a holy man, and a guy called Date


>        ^^^^^^                          ^^^^^^^^


>>>> who has written a bunch of popular books on the subject is his


>                                                                ^^^

>>>> replacement on earth.


>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


>>> You are an idiot if that is what you honestly believe.
>> That attitude exactly.


> 

>      I think that what I have caretted shows more bad attitude.  You

I think one reason the caret'ed names get mentioned so often by the cognoscenti is that their ideas are so widely misunderstood or ignored.   I can't remember the last time, if there was one, that anyone of the OO cult quoted any one of the big names and asked of c.d.t, "what does that mean?" without presuming the answer must necessaryily be couched in OO jargon . I think this is telling, and detect a certain desperation in it, whereas hip and un-lazy types like Bob B have made it a point to look for coherence in OO notions (but when he points out the incoherence, he is met with bafflegab). Plus, even though I disagree with Date on a few minor points, the fact is he makes a big effort to write more clearly than most experts would ever try to match. There is at least one non-OO mystic here who has obviously read substantial parts of their writings and mastered parts of it, but he has other problems such as being a pathological obfuscator, that go beyond what RT could ever address, so I don't count him in that crowd, even though his raving could be considered a danger to accurate interpretation. Finally, there is no inconsistency with posters who illustrate SQL, as long as they don't pretend it has a coherent theory behind it, personally I welcome SQL examples that don't pretend to be anything other than practical technique in an ignorant world.. Received on Wed Jun 10 2009 - 02:49:12 CEST