Re: OT (sets and stuff)
Date: 6 Feb 2007 19:39:13 -0800
Message-ID: <1170819553.153442.93430_at_l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
On Feb 6, 4:38 pm, paul c <toledobythe..._at_oohay.ac> wrote:
> Marshall wrote:
>
> > Hope springs eternal in the human breast;
> > Man never Is, but always To be Blest.
>
> Marshall, I gather you're American, how come you're not quoting your
> mostly absent countryman, TS Eliot, who with his black precision stamped
> paid on Pope's pastoral view, something like "when there is distress of
> nations ... men's curiousity searches past and future and clings to that
> dimension"?
Not a big fan of Eliot, actually, although one must acknowledge that
the Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock is a work of unbridled genius.
Yes,
But American poetry? Who you gonna hold up? We can nod in the
direction of Longfellow, and Edna St. Vincent Millay, and Robert
Pinsky
But English poetry? Oh. My. God. We'd be lucky to have someone
like Robert Southey playing for our team, but over there all they
remember him for is that Byron made fun of him. England has
a great poet like Shelley and his wife writes a novel everyone
has heard about close to two centuries later. You can't turn
a spade at Westminister without disturbing more poetic talent
than I can claim for my country.
Marshall
PS. A rat done bit my sister Nell
I'm an American (I was tempted to say "no, I'm a Californian") but I
can't seem to get in to American poetry. The USA has produced
some great literature: we have Hemingway and Fitzgerald and Faulkner,
and dammit Raymond Chandler. And I'll claim the Transcendentalists
will hold up creditably against any group of English philosophers.
even. Steven Vincent Benet? His prose is better. Or consider Thoreau.
He wrote a book that I believe will still be considered one of the
greatest works of the English language centuries hence. His poetry?
It's kind of painful, like when you favorite actor records an album,
or when Steven King appears in his TV adaptations. Okay, so
Gil Scott-Heron can sling some verse. Sure.
PPS. I'm now officially the literary poseur of the data management
field.
Received on Wed Feb 07 2007 - 04:39:13 CET