Re: The wisdom of the object mentors (Was: Searching OO Associations with RDBMS Persistence Models)
From: Bob Badour <bbadour_at_pei.sympatico.ca>
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 14:15:40 GMT
Message-ID: <gsYeg.15053$A26.352934_at_ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>
>>Robert Martin wrote:
>>
>>>No, a DBMS is a bucket of bits with some low level rules to manage
>>>those bits. An OO application provides the beavior that the customer
>>>wants to see. We can completely eliminate the DBMS and replace it with
>>>another of an entirely different form (non Relational for example) and
>>>still have all the business behavior we need.
>>
>>>The people who sell databases have sold you, and the industry, a
>>>misconception: that the database is the heart of the system. This is
>>>flawed. The heart of the system is the application code. The database
>>>is a detail to be decided at the last possible moment and kept in a
>>>position so flexible that it can be swapped out for another at a whim.
>>
>>If the mentors are like this, I don't want to imagine the rest.
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 14:15:40 GMT
Message-ID: <gsYeg.15053$A26.352934_at_ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>
Tony Andrews wrote:
> Alfredo Novoa wrote: >
>>Robert Martin wrote:
>>
>>>No, a DBMS is a bucket of bits with some low level rules to manage
>>>those bits. An OO application provides the beavior that the customer
>>>wants to see. We can completely eliminate the DBMS and replace it with
>>>another of an entirely different form (non Relational for example) and
>>>still have all the business behavior we need.
>>
>>>The people who sell databases have sold you, and the industry, a
>>>misconception: that the database is the heart of the system. This is
>>>flawed. The heart of the system is the application code. The database
>>>is a detail to be decided at the last possible moment and kept in a
>>>position so flexible that it can be swapped out for another at a whim.
>>
>>If the mentors are like this, I don't want to imagine the rest.
> > > Considering the use of so many button-pushingly ludicrous statements > such as "a DBMS is a bucket of bits" and "swapped out for another at a > whim", do you not think perhaps Mr Martin was teasing (or goading) you?
Are you suggesting that makes Mr. Marin any less of an idiot? Received on Tue May 30 2006 - 16:15:40 CEST