Re: Some Hype on "new" databases - where's the theory in this group?

On Sun, 08 May 2005 02:23:32 GMT, paul c <toledobythesea_at_oohay.ac> wrote:

>i'd say he was mostly talking about physical stuff.

I see more logical stuff than physical stuff.

>Gray has a well-deserved reputation in physical database matters.

And he is deserving a bad reputation in logical database matters.

>to me, Gray is talking about a subject that may be valuable to some
>commercial interests but which is not necessarily involved with real
>progress in the field - the kind that offers a theory and then tries to
>test it and gives lasting value to all of us.

They are just describing the clumsy "progress" in SQL Server and Windows. Most of what they describe is currently available.

>a few years ago, i asked a couple of old friends to interpret pages 54
>to 56 of Darwen and Date's TTM. all three of us had differing results
>for simple examples.

So at least two of you were wrong.

> (the other two guys have enough degrees to counter
>my lack of one.)

Unfortunately degrees guarantee almost nothing.

> i've never seen any discussion of such basics in this
>'theory' group. how come? isn't this the kind of thing that should be
>discussed here?

This is. I am curious about your simple examples.

Regards Received on Sun May 08 2005 - 12:15:47 CEST