Re: database systems and organizational intelligence

From: Alan <alan_at_erols.com>
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 11:04:07 -0400
Message-ID: <2hp2n6Fflk47U1_at_uni-berlin.de>


>
> Lament -- I'm teaching Java in the Fall and the last time I taught a
college
> language course was over 20 years ago --COBOL, Fortran, and BASIC. Where
we
> were once able to teach a language and in short order a student could take
> in data, validate it, use it, modify it, store it, and retrieve it (i.e.
> data processing), we might now need to teach Java, SQL, XML (including
many
> xml-based "languages" such as ant), jsp, html (along with taglibs etc) to
> write one little example of taking in data, storing it and retrieving it
> again the way a production system might work. (and then to get the
software
> run-time environment set up...!!)
>

Just a "watch out". I stopped teaching last year as I became very disillusioned with the quality of the students. In every class I taught (undergrad seniors and graduate level), I discovered instances of cheating and/or plagiarism. I don't know what I would have found if I was actively looking for it. This was at a leading (according to U.S News & World Report listing) university for I.S. I hope your experience is different, but my dean indicated that this is a nationwide problem.

I don't give "repeat the facts back to me" questions, I give "you have to think about this and synthesize what you've learned" questions. I almost never give syntax questions. In case you are interested, here are some examples of the cheating:

What is really galling, is that in addition to the university cheating policy, I explicitly layed out in the syllabus what kind of collaboration was allowed and what wasn't, what was plagiarism and what wasn't. No one ever claimed to be confused by the policy- they just cheated.

Now here's the really sad part of the story- as I mentioned, these were seniors and grad students. Could it be that they never cheated before? Of course not, so it means that faculty members either were not paying attention, just didn't care, or, more chillingly, were afraid to confront the students because it would affect the faculty member's student evaluation. Received on Fri May 28 2004 - 17:04:07 CEST

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