Re: Date is Incomplete - database application software and database theory

From: Alfredo Novoa <alfredo_at_ncs.es>
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 12:15:52 GMT
Message-ID: <40a9e021.715949_at_news.tehnicom.net>


On Mon, 17 May 2004 13:56:53 GMT, "mountain man" <hobbit_at_southern_seaweed.com.op> wrote:

>> Applications depend on the data management approach
>> but the contrary is not true.
>
>The modern database systems management paradigm turns
>a blind eye to the applications environment

As it should be. Theory should not be limited by the current technology. Theory is the basis for future technology.

>> The application's development world failed in its adaptation to the
>> modern data management "paradigm. That's all.
>
>It's easy to point a finger in the other direction, but in
>the final analysis examination of contributing causes to
>the current state of the nation includes the "paradigm"
>and its incompleteness.

Only in your personal analysis, and I am afraid it is very wrong.

>Database systems theory has not evolved to benefit from
>the management now available through modern database
>systems.

???

To benefit from what?

Modern database systems are the SQL DBMSs. A bastardized implementation of modern data management theory.

It does not make any sense to say that data management theory has not evolved to benefit from the poor management now avaiable through bastardized implementations of such theory.

>It expresses a 1970's database/application
>dichotomy

1960's and it is DBMS not database.

>, which is unwholesome and unwarranted
>and totally and completely unrealistic to the facts of
>operation, administration and management of database
>systems today.

Nonsenses. The division between applications and DBMS's is a perfecty valid principle now. It is as valid as the ancient "divide and conquer" principle, and a derivation of it.

What don't you like in such division?

Saludos
  Alfredo Received on Tue May 18 2004 - 14:15:52 CEST

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