Re: Ah, but who has better parties?

"Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra" <leandro_at_dutra.fastmail.fm> wrote in message news:pan.2004.05.14.15.08.18.964434_at_dutra.fastmail.fm...
> Em Thu, 13 May 2004 22:01:30 -0500, Dawn M. Wolthuis escreveu:
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> > But there are some aspects of relational theory that have been applied
and
> > there is really no proof that they have helped the software profession
in
> > any way.
>
> That is a lie.

A little severe -- using the term "lie" is typically reserved for incorrect statements where there was intent to state things incorrectly.

I have requested evidence before of the worth of SQL-DBMS's compared to those that are not and have not found any such. There is mathematical proof of various theorms related to a relational algebra, but I haven't even seen anything that suggests it is evidence that any application thereof to date has delivered what was intended.

Could you point me to such so that I refrain from ignorant mistakes such as the above? I assure you that I have no interest in lying. If there is evidence that the implementations based on relational theory to date have advanced the discipline, in particular by giving companies a better bang for the buck, then that would be great! It might prove some of my hypotheses incorrect, but that's fine with me -- I'd like to see the evidence.

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> And by the way, these aspects have been usually very poorly applied.

Agreed. So, I have left room for considering that it is only the implementations to date that has not significantly advanced our discipline, and that Dataphor or other products might be leaps and bounds beyond what we have today. I'd still like to find a way to test such a hypothesis, however, so people don't just assume that because there is mathematics behind it, it must be "true". --dawn Received on Sat May 15 2004 - 00:50:26 CEST