Re: Data Display & Modeling

"Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra" <leandro_at_dutra.fastmail.fm> wrote in message news:pan.2004.05.07.01.38.19.984939_at_dutra.fastmail.fm...
> Em Thu, 06 May 2004 20:08:33 -0500, Dawn M. Wolthuis escreveu:
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> > Are folks like these as clueless as I am?
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> You'd be surprised.
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> Notice that in all these late discussions you failed to
> learn. You keep repeating all this hype without learning the concepts
> I challenge you on.

You might think I'm learning nothing, but I listen to every piece of advice I am given and I continue to study. I have not finished Date's latest textbook, but I'm quite far through it (not much new, but a good solid chunk of work). Because of your response, I re-read the section on constraints. The book, as the theory, is very impressive, but so far, for whatever reason, without approaching the material with "blind belief" I cannot seem to be convinced that using relational modeling is the way to approach business software implementations in order to provide the best solution for most businesses.

I might not be the most intelligent person on the planet (please don't pass that along to those who think I am) but once I have given a full year of study to this subject (around mid-summer of this year), if I am still not convinced that being a relational proponent is the only stewardly position to take, then I'm going to let my experience continue to win out unless or until I "see the light".

I have a quarter of a century of data collected in my brain from "DP" experiences (by whatever name). This, too, does not constitute proof. Simply having a consistent algebra that makes for a good game, but gives little proof of its overall USEFULNESS in comparison to other models, is not a good enough argument. There are many successful database implementations in production today that do not require relational modeling for their success and that I would hypothesize would not provide a better value for their companies if implemented in an RDBMS (yes, even if there were such a thing ;-)

Cheers! --dawn
P.S. By the way, are you also learning anything useful about non-relational approaches, or is it just the non-relational folks who are in need of education? Received on Fri May 07 2004 - 04:38:33 CEST