Re: UNIX vs VMS
Date: 1995/10/26
Message-ID: <1995Oct26.085726.1_at_cbr.hhcs.gov.au>#1/1
In article <DGEK22.5qE_at_tron.bwi.wec.com>, dishop_at_netops.bwi.wec.com (Shari Dishop - Network Engineering - Westinghouse Comm. - Baltimore) writes:
> In article <DGBH3z.LA9_at_cunews.carleton.ca>, dcavens_at_schoolnet.carleton.ca (Darrell Cavens) writes:
>>mreagan_at_fast.net wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> As far as I know, digital is phasing out VMS(Ill assume there will be >>support for awhile), but developing on a platform that appears to be headed >>out does not seem like a great plan (IMHO) >>
>
> From everything I have seen/read/heard DEC has no plans to do away with
> OpenVMS. (Every since DEC started supporting more than one operating system
> on their hardware people have been trying to kill VMS!) I have on desk the
> latest DECUS (Digital Equipment Corporation User Society) newsletter. This
> includes an interview with Wes Melling Vice President, OpenVMS Systems
One of Digital's biggest problems is the number of Vice Presidents and that they don't seem to know what the company as a whole is really planning to do.
OpenVMS appears to be slipping to an Oracle tier 3 release platform ie you won't ever see timely Oracle software upgrades available on it.
I hate to admit it but the UNIX platforms are getting earlier and faster support from Oracle these days so a move to UNIX may be worth it.
I have also noticed that OpenVMS SMP does not scale well beyond 2 cpus and where the machine is capable of scaling well then the OS simply overloads in Multi-proccesor Synchronization mode. In a 4 cpu machine I regularly lose one and a third cpus to MPSync and this is incurred as users get into and out of the Oracle tools ie sql*plus, sql*Forms, etc.
> Business, Digital Equipment Corporation. To paraphrase some of his statements
> ... OpenVMS is not going away for a long, long, long, time ...
> It is going to be supported and enhanced.
Gee I hope so. I like OpenVMS because its so friendly but they need to trim the fat and streamline the beast to compete.
>
> As a side note:
> The subject of this article is the integration of OpenVMS with Windows NT.
> The article stated that DEC is planning to add support for Microsoft
> Foundation Classes (along with other NT features) to OpenVMS. If this does
> indeed happen and all of the Microsoft "proprietary" features used to for some
> of Oracle's latest software (Designer 2000) is available on OpenVMS, users may
> have a non-Microsoft OS choice yet!
Sounds nice, I always like these warm fuzzy friendly relationship announcements because they say a lot but usually never deliver much and certainly not before the year 2000. I hope they can deliver something and soon.
I don't see Micro$oft giving up control of any money making "proprietary" feature unless they have just obsoleted it with a new one. maybe MS is interested in Digital because they want access to the 64bit OS technology that Digital have eg WIN-NT-64.
Sorry, I live a bitter ( and twisted 8^} ) life these days.
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