Re: What a joke...
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 23:08:15 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <qjkisv$8r6$1_at_solani.org>
On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 04:05:02 -0700, Noons wrote:
> On Friday, 16 August 2019 23:46:20 UTC+10, jeremy wrote:
>> In article <cce87bc5-b318-40b8-80d5-
>> 1a93876be99d_at_googlegroups.com>, It's a real shame to have a technical
>> group with some incredibly knowledgeable and helpful posters involved
>> pretty much daily to be overrun like this - to the exent that it has
>> been abandoned.
>>
>> I wonder if these adverts actually generate any interest?
> > No idea. But one things is for sure: > This is not needed anymore and the group should be deleted. > Not that the people who created it would be interested in anything to do > with Oracle anymore...
I disagree. This is an excellent honeypot for spammers. I have created
several useful filters which keep other Usenet groups clean by using this
group.
[Quoted] As for this group, it has been dead for a very long time. Oracle list is
also slowly dying, no traffic there, either. The main enforcer of
political correctness on oracle-l has retired, or so I was told. The
[Quoted] reason why this group and oracle-l both are no longer useful is rather
complex and can be attributed to Oracle Corp. in its entirety.
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[Quoted]
- Information is doled out in a very controlled manner, documentation quality is horrendous. The documentation is unreadable. I used to read the DBA guide for each new version from cover to cover. The last version that it was possible to do so was 8i. There was definite break with tradition at the time of 9i. That was also the time Cary Millsap has left Oracle. Now, if you want really useful information you have to pay for "Oracle Master" class and certification. It ain't cheap. [Quoted]
- Market is flooded with "oracle certified persons" and "oracle certified administrators". That brings the price down. When the price goes down, interest drops, as well as the quality of the people practicing the trade.
- Outsourcing and cloud have done their parts. Businesses no longer have their own IT staff, they have system administrators and network admins, that's about it. You don't need a DBA to install, backup or recover a RDS database. If RDS instances are not big enough, Oracle has "Exadata in the cloud", which is ridiculous. Exadata is a data warehouse machine which speeds up full table scan and therefore star schema and snowflake schema. The main point of having Exadata was to have a hardware monster to boost your DW performance. BTW, all Exadata database nodes are virtual as of X7-2. The only reason to have "Exadata in the cloud" is to be able to use zone maps. And you need a good DBA to know how to use them.
[Quoted] Basically, job of an Oracle DBA is no longer glamorous or particularly appreciated one. That means that the quality of the DBA personnel has dropped significantly. That is a self-reinforcing process which continues until this day. The newly minted DBA personnel is mostly young and [Quoted] unaffected by the IT sub-culture of the 20th century. I was interviewing a guy few years ago and he didn't know the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow. Instead, he complained about "discriminatory question" to the HR. Fortunately, my boss was smart and there were no consequences. People who know what the "swallow question" is all about are the people who were hanging out on Usenet. The whole IT sub-culture has changed. I [Quoted] have recently encountered a Java programmer who has asked me "what is Slashdot". With folks like that, there is no future for Usenet.
--- [Quoted] I love the smell of napalm in the morning! (Appocalypse Now) -- Mladen Gogala Database Consultant http://mgogala.byethost5.comReceived on Thu Aug 22 2019 - 01:08:15 CEST