Re: why administrator refuse to give permission on PLUSTRACE

From: DA Morgan <damorgan_at_psoug.org>
Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 07:25:42 -0700
Message-ID: <1194099940.588419@bubbleator.drizzle.com>

Thomas Kellerer wrote:
>
>
> Galen Boyer wrote on 03.11.2007 14:08:

>> On Fri, 02 Nov 2007, damorgan_at_psoug.org wrote:
>>
>>> But would you want to run the production servers at an enterprise such
>>> as Amazon, Boeing, T-Mobile, Mitsubishi based on this?
>>
>> I'm not going to mention the three big companys that have the 
>> practices I've
>> seen, but they are as well known and large as these.  

>
> I can second that from my experience.
>
> Here is a real-live answer from a DBA from a very large US computer
> company:
>
> "No, we will not add FK constraints to that table, it will slow down the
> system. And besides: the data will always be consistent, and your
> application [accesssing that data] will never have to cope with invalid
> data"
>
> Guess what happened...

They created Siebel. <g>
Or was it Maximo?
Or was it Banner?

That banks get robbed is not up for debate. We are debating whether they should continue to be robbed because bank robberies exist.

I am not ignorant enough to think every DBA is competent, or that every developer is not more skilled than their DBA, or that most management has a clue. I am advocating best practice and that is that developers never touch production and if the DBA is incompetent train or replace them.

Still though ... not one of you developers has solved the simple tuning problem I put forth. I'm beginning to wonder.

-- 
Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
damorgan_at_x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
www.psoug.org

Received on Sat Nov 03 2007 - 09:25:42 CDT