Re: command line vs grid control

Noons wrote:

> Probably both. Might come as a shock to you
> but not everyone needs the level of monitoring
> supposedly available from awr and grid.

> Here we go with the FUD bullshit!
> Daniel, get real: no amount of bullying will convince
> an IT manager to fork out for the overblown greed+AWR
> stuff. Statspack and a few scripts cover the requirements
> of 90% of sites out there and the remaining can surely
> afford the product anyway. Or buy a third-party monitor
> that will achieve precisely the same for much less cost.

A lot of them are paying for it though I doubt it is because of bullying.

The reality is that for most organizations they can use the grid and reduce cost by keeping on salary fewer DBAs and making those DBAs more productive because they are not wasting their time writing archaic shell scripts among other busy work. In my region a fully burdened DBA costs an organization about 200K per year (salary, desk, computer, insurance, vacation, sick leave, etc.). You can buy a lot of Grid Control for $200K and that's just for one year.

The ones that are buying it are not being bullied ... they are making decisions based on finances.

Viewed from the narrow window of monitoring other products may cost less. But they won't manage RMAN, or Data Guard, or RAC, or .... It isn't such a bad deal from the corporate standpoint unless viewed from the chair of the marginally productive DBA whose goal is job retention.

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Daniel A. Morgan
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