Re: RMAN Duplicate Command for 8.1.6.1

Thanks a lot.
I apalogize for asking this again:

My question was I will create standby control file outside of RMAN after duplicate command is run using:
alter database create standby controlfile ...

Will things work?

On Apr 2, 9:14 am, "fitzjarr..._at_cox.net" <fitzjarr..._at_cox.net> wrote:
> On Apr 1, 6:31 pm, dbaplusp..._at_hotmail.com wrote:
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> > David:
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> > Thanks a lot. I know in Oracle 8.1.7, RMAN added explict command for
> > creating standby database
> > control file, but duplicate command is available in 8.1.6.
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> > If I duplicate database (is n't database identical to production) and
> > then use standby database control file using
> > Oracle';s datbase comand (Instead of RMAN command), won't that work. I
> > am just trying to undesratnd what is
> > in duplicate command which is different from shutting down database
> > and then making OS backup and
> > sending it to standby site. Oracle allows a cold or hot backup to set
> > initial standby database, as long as all the arcived logs for
> > recpvery are copied/
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> > If RMAN's duplicate command does not work, I have another option to
> > use Netbackup's alternate retsore which restores
> > database on a different server (than where the backup was done) and
> > then use it. I can then create a tandby controlfile on primary and
> > then copy it.
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> > On Apr 1, 6:31 pm, "fitzjarr..._at_cox.net" <fitzjarr..._at_cox.net> wrote:
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> > > Comments embedded.
> > > On Apr 1, 2:14 pm, dbaplusp..._at_hotmail.com wrote:
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> > > > I am stuck with using Oracle 8.1.6.1 on HP UNIX 11. I want to
> > > > duplicate
> > > > Primary database on HOST A to a Standby Database on HOST B.
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> > > Then do it the proper way for 8.1.6 and earlier releases by shutting
> > > down the database, cloning it to your destination server, creating a
> > > standby control file and implement your standby.
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> > > > For
> > > > initial setup of STNADBY database I will like to use RMAN's duplicate
> > > > command.
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> > > Nope, not with 8.1.6. With 8.1.7.4 or later releases you can.
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> > > > I will then create a standby control file outside of RMAN
> > > > and copy to Standby database. Once standby data base is setup, I will
> > > > use managed recovery to transfer archived logs from primary database
> > > > to standby.
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> > > Not with RMAN and release 8.1.6.1. You need to follow the pre-RMAN
> > > implementation strategy outlined earlier.
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> > > > Based on reading various Oracle manuals, it should be doable (I think
> > > > in Oracle 8.1.6.1
> > > > as well).
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> > > Sorry, it isn't and you should have visited otn.oracle.com and read
> > > the documentation for 8.1.6 instead of reading the documentation for
> > > 8.1.7.4 and later releases and expecting things to work.
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> > > > All RMAN duplicate examples show disk based backups and refer to image
> > > > copies. My RMAN backups are backup sets stored on tape (using
> > > > Netbackup's RMAN media manager layer). I think that duplicate command
> > > > should be transparent to image copies
> > > > or backup sets.
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> > > Your strategy won't work, period, due to the version of Oracle with
> > > which you are 'stuck' using. And you're apparently too lazy or too
> > > clueless to read the documentation for the release in question.
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> > > > Appreciate any response.
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> The duplicate command in 8.1.6 will NOT work to create a standby
> database as it will create a regular controlfile and use it rather
> than create/use a standby controlfile. How often do we need to tell
> you that for THIS release of Oracle RMAN CANNOT create your standby
> database for you??
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Received on Mon Apr 02 2007 - 13:54:09 CDT