Re: Could Mark Townsend please comment on this question re: Standard Edition

From: DA Morgan <damorgan_at_psoug.org>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:05:26 -0700
Message-ID: <1160669123.297457@bubbleator.drizzle.com>

Fuzzy wrote:
> Mark Townsend wrote:
>

>> Is there still an outstanding question here ?

>
> I think there are several questions implied:
>
> When installing Oracle Database 10g (Personal, Enterprise or Standard
> Edition) ... how does one ensure the EM Packs are turned off (and stay
> off) to avoid ligitation?
>
> What tests, at the database level, can be performed to determine
> whether one has any of the packs turned on or in use?
>
>
> The OEM 'Setup' page allows us to turn off the packs, but it is unclear
> whether that is system-wide or only for the current user. And that
> requires access to OEM, whereas the packs include advisors that
> actually are database packages that do not require access to OEM.
>
>
> Oracle does a fair job of telling us we need to pay for the packs if we
> want to use them. And they give us an 'overview of the features' in
> several places. But so far, I have not seen an actual document that
> states how we can definitively (and legally) ensure we are not in
> violation.

My two cents ... I understand, I think, the internal Oracle logical of a single installation for SE and EE but this is truly begging the issue with respect to both Oracle's ability to enforce in the courts and more importantly maintaining good customer relations.

A simple decision to accept money from customers that want to use an installed feature would simply everything and make the stockholders happy.

I must confess I do not understand the logic behind putting something on someone's machine, telling them they can not use it, and that if they do they are violating their license ... BUT ... we won't take your money. I think Joseph Heller said something about this in Catch 22.

-- 
Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
damorgan_at_x.washington.edu
(replace x with u to respond)
Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
www.psoug.org

Received on Thu Oct 12 2006 - 11:05:26 CDT