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Re: Migrating from Oracle to Derby

From: Serge Rielau <srielau_at_ca.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:04:49 -0400
Message-ID: <4f8nitF1h9uupU1@individual.net>


Chuck wrote:

> DA Morgan wrote:

>> Chuck wrote:
>>> DA Morgan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oracle is commercially viable so I wouldn't hold my breath. Informix
>>>> on-the-other-hand is dying of neglect and DB2 will be the next to dry
>>>> up and blow away (excluding AS400 and mainframe).
>>> Not unless Oracle lowers their licensing cost it won't. That's the main
>>> thing keeping DB2 around. A company I used to work for switched to DB2
>>> because it would cost them $1m to license oracle for all their projects
>>> and licensing DB2 on the same hardware for the same # of users was about
>>> $150k.
>> A few thoughts.
>>
>> 1. PeopleSoft
>> 2. JD Edwards
>> 3. Siebel
>> 4. Pool of potential employees in 5-7 years
>>
>> DB2 is today where COBOL was when I walked (well really ran) away. The
>> handwriting is on the wall for IBM. You might note too that HP just
>> passed IBM in computer sales.
> 
> I'm not sure what this has to do with the licensing cost of the RDBMS.
> DB2 is more than capable for mission critical databases. It may be
> lagging several years behind Oracle in technology, but as long as Oracle
> is charging as much as it does, it's keeping DB2 alive.
Not quite sure how we got from Derby to DB2 and Informix here.... anyway to answer Daniel's comment from way up the thread: "Why would anyone give away something for free that they can sell?" You do have a point. IBM is not good in selling to developers and small installations. But IBM is good in recognizing valuable technology and good at creating markets (which companies like Oracle will gladly and rightly latch on to).
This is nothing else than a repeat of what happened to Eclipse. And I doubt anyone will argue Eclipse's success. You could say that Eclipse had to be liberated from the IBM ownership to become truly valuable and the same is (hopefully) true for Derby. As a result Java is being strengthened and that is absolutely IBM's agenda (and I dare say Oracle's).

Cheers
Serge

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Serge Rielau
DB2 Solutions Development
IBM Toronto Lab

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